"You need Voice Chat to do Coil"

[TeaTimeBear]

I think the issue is what's the point? No in-game voice chat system is ever as good as vent/TS/skype/steam, so why even put the time and effort of the devs into making an in-game voice chat system?

The reasons listed throughout the posts. Yes you can do it w/o the things you said. And if you have acess to them great. But if you don't? Then you're either SOL or gonna have to really study the content while other people get through it easier via 3rd party usage. How is this acceptable? It seems like a glaring oversight.

[randomrope]

Yes you can do it w/o the things you said. And if you have acess to them great. But if you don't? Then you're either SOL or gonna have to really study the content while other people get through it easier via 3rd party usage. How is this acceptable? It seems like a glaring oversight.

I'm guessing you either got picked up in Rev's Toll through shouts or used the DF to join a group that is either an FC or a LS. Those are the people that made voice a requirement not SE, and that was your luck. I have never got into a DF pug where 8 random ppl all said that everyone has to be on their voice chat. That would be madness. Not everyone requires voice.

1.) If you join a FC or LS that requires voice and you cant use it then yes you are SOL
2.) Of course people need to study content that should be a given for any game.

Both are acceptable to me.

[TeaTimeBear]

I'm guessing you either got picked up in Rev's Toll through shouts or used the DF to join a group that is either an FC or a LS. Those are the people that made voice a requirement not SE, and that was your luck. I have never got into a DF pug where 8 random ppl all said that everyone has to be on their voice chat. That would be madness. Not everyone requires voice.

1.) If you join a FC or LS that requires voice and you cant use it then yes you are SOL
2.) Of course people need to study content that should be a given for any game.

Both are acceptable to me.

I've never experienced this first hand but I know it's there and no not for any games, just games that require you to hold your own or you'll harm everyone. BC is also story related, what if I love the story and only want to play through the turns not for gear but lore. After working 9-5 why do players have to be subjected to work as hard at what should be entertainment?

Some of us are stoic I get that, you play through the pain. But you're not the only audience here. This option is not the best option IMO.

[Ri_ri]

I've never experienced this first hand but I know it's there and no not for any games, just games that require you to hold your own or you'll harm everyone. BC is also story related, what if I love the story and only want to play through the turns not for gear but lore. After working 9-5 why do players have to be subjected to work as hard at what should be entertainment?

Some of us are stoic I get that, you play through the pain. But you're not the only audience here. This option is not the best option IMO.

Really, Coil has story?
I didn't knew that. I thought it was just some cool place with Bahamut's name on it. Suddenly I feel a lot less excited about this game.

WoW learned the hard way that hiding lore behind raiding is a bad idea, and made LFR. Then comes FFXIV and copies the old horrible, exclusive model. So, people who can't commit to a schedule, don't want or can't use voice chat, or is just bad a remembering and executing silly mechanics, won't see what's there to see?
Are we in 2003 or something?

[FinagleABagel]

VOIP sure makes Turn 2 and Turn 4 easier.

It shouldn't come to any surprise at all that VOIP makes organization easier for fairly difficult raid content.

[ufufu]

Frankly, most people in Coil aren't going to want to play with you anyway on account of your being on PS3.

[Aerostein]

Frankly, most people in Coil aren't going to want to play with you anyway on account of your being on PS3.

Sadly, that's the cold reality of it. Anyone who believes otherwise isn't paying attention to what it is going on in this community.

[TeaTimeBear]

Sadly, that's the cold reality of it. Anyone who believes otherwise isn't paying attention to what it is going on in this community.

Adding to the fact that they believed VC would be damaging, that just makes us look even more gimped. Having an option to both enable and disable the feature would have been a more sound approach compared to removing it entirely.

[Hanemakikaze]

Ha, I'd love to see no voice chat turn 2 boss encounter, dat STD & tank threat sharing.

[KogaDrake]

Communication is required to succeed in coil, be it game party chat or voice. The thing is, many of us prefer Voice, and use voice for everything so when we get that one member who wants to type and not talk or even listen it disrupts us and leads to lower chances of success. I know when someone says something in chat and not TS when we are running 90% of the time i don't even see it because we all use TS to communicate (nothing important goes in chat box, and if it does it must have a <se.#> in it so we know to look at chat)

For people like myself and my group, bringing in someone without TS is just a headache since we never use party chat to communicate anything in raid, and many other do the same and this is why we require TS (or other voice).

Yes its more of a challenge when on PS3, but 1/2 our coil group does PS3 so we know there are plenty of options, and someone unwilling to use any of them is not likely going to fit with our group anyways.

Frankly, most people in Coil aren't going to want to play with you anyway on account of your being on PS3.

This is 100% BS, and anyone who wont play with someone whos on PS3 has there heads so far up there rear its not funny. Anyone not willing to play with PS3 members are not worth your time as they are too out of the loop and not a good part of the community which is one of the most important part of any MMO.

Ha, I'd love to see no voice chat turn 2 boss encounter, dat STD & tank threat sharing.

Silencing and tank switching is not hard to do w/o voice at all, I have done the bard silencing without any talk or party chat, not hard to watch and know its your turn. Same with tank swap, soon as other tanks debuf is off you know its about to switch. The only thing in turn 2 that would be hard w/o any chatting would be Rot.