Warrior "buff" in 2.1: not what we are expecting?

[PiedPiper]

Stopped reading here because you are clearly unaware of what the Warrior was wearing when you typed this OR are not aware what is BiS for Warriors at the current time.

It was shown in the thread that in that example the warrior had a major str advantage.

Best in slot for warrior, atm is comprised of AF2, allagan, and heros, every slot of fending. Or were you planning on clearing coils in full str accessories while being the main tank? Here, educate me. What is warrior best in slot atm for main tanking?

Also, if you stoped reading thre, that's AFTER I explained why the annecdote of warrior being able to pull off paladin was pretty null and void, and you didn't bother to argue against that--you know, the actual meat of the post and the information that matters.

[Taemek]

It was shown in the thread that in that example the warrior had a major str advantage.

Best in slot for warrior, atm is comprised of AF2, allagan, and heros, every slot of fending. Or were you planning on clearing coils in full str accessories while being the main tank? Here, educate me. What is warrior best in slot atm for main tanking?

Oh really?

I guess everyone in this thread http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...zation-for-WAR. is wrong then?

Please do edumucate me. No wait, don't just edumucate me, edumucate the entire Warrior community.

[PiedPiper]

Oh really?

I guess everyone in this thread http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...zation-for-WAR. is wrong then?

Please do edumucate me. No wait, don't just edumucate me, edumucate the entire Warrior community.

In that build, the warrior has meleded to get full vitality on all accessory slots (so it has, actually, in point of fact, stacked vitality). Of course, a paladin could wear the exact same melds and get teh same benefit. So yes, I still maintain, that if you want to compare the classes, they should be in equal gear. If the warrior is using quin meld accessories to maintain vitality and get extra str/dex, you gotta give it to the pally.

Allllllso, that build has gone to such great lenghts, (and given up quite a lot of vitality, over 1k effective hp actually, compared to full i90 accessories) to cap out parry mitigation.. which... just isn't worth it. I parry at a 23% damage reduction in my current build, but block at 25 or 26 (I forget). This build only cliams a 2% increase to damage parried. Also, no matter how far a warrior pumps their parry rate, it'll never add up to as much chance to mitigate as paladin's net between parry and block (since ever attack is checked first for block, then checked again for parry on paladin, we get two checks vs jsut your parry check).

[majokaner]

that build has gone to such great lenghts, (and given up quite a lot of vitality, over 1k effective hp actually, compared to full i90 accessories) to cap out parry mitigation.. which... just isn't worth it. I parry at a 23% damage reduction in my current build, but block at 25 or 26 (I forget). This build only cliams a 2% increase to damage parried. .

actually it's 676 effective HP more with ilvl90, the parry addition is a nice side effect we get nearly 5% crit and 12.91% higher WS damage wich results in having higher selfhealing/higher mitigation as damage is the only mitigation we currently have this is indeed a better setup than ilvl90 accessories, oh and i didnt even look at accuracy yet..

[CurlyBruce]

It was shown in the thread that in that example the warrior had a major str advantage.

Best in slot for warrior, atm is comprised of AF2, allagan, and heros, every slot of fending. Or were you planning on clearing coils in full str accessories while being the main tank? Here, educate me. What is warrior best in slot atm for main tanking?

I also don't think he realizes that anything a WAR can wear for BiS a PLD can also wear and survive better with in MT scenario. Any gear differences are negligible because PLD and WAR share the same gear, barring Myth armor but base stats are the same and WAR arguably has worse secondary stats on their Myth armor. Baseline HP for both jobs is only off by 85 in favor of WAR. Any sufficient amount of VIT for WAR is more than sufficient for PLD because of it's suite of superior cooldowns.