Dragoons: Crit Class with no Crit?

[xyaie]

what is your source for this? did you get this from that one guy who basically ran a few tries and drew some excel spreadsheets?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...otation-Reborn
I was a part of the theorycrafting that went into this. its 51 pages with probably more theorycrafting in the first 2 post alone than most of the DPS forums combine. those exact numbers are from easymodeX (he made the finished product).

as for the crit formula:
http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id...riticalHitRate

he cites his info and his test quite well. so far its stayed very consistent with my "actual" results within a reasonable margin of error.

[ShinigamiB06]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...otation-Reborn
I was a part of the theorycrafting that went into this. its 51 pages with probably more theorycrafting in the first 2 post alone than most of the DPS forums combine. those exact numbers are from easymodeX (he made the finished product).

as for the crit formula:
http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id...riticalHitRate

he cites his info and his test quite well. so far its stayed very consistent with my "actual" results within a reasonable margin of error.

ill have to sit down and carefully read the whole thing before i can actually say anything in regards to those numbers. but from a quick peak, I am not sure i can accept those trials for critical hit chance. It will most likely sound stupid to the masses, and admittedly there is a very high chance that I am wrong, but i cant shake this feeling that critical hit chance is not a linear number that simply increases with higher value. To put it more clearly, I feel like the critical hit chance stat works alongside other stats in order to calculate the real critical hit rate percentage.

Here is why i believe this: In the numbers presented in the graph, with 340 CHR you have a ~6% chance to land a critical. with 440 CHR you have effectively increased that to ~12% chance. So if these numbers truly have a linear relationship, then by definition decreasing you CHR from 340 to 240 you would literally have ~0% chance of a critical hit. And if you further decreased that number you would go into negative values. So i think its fair to say that we have all landed a critical hit with less than 240 CHR (unless that is the starting value stat at level one LOL)

That is why I have always said: "numbers may not lie, but they dont tell the whole truth"

just for the sake of completeness, i feel the person should test if changing the strength stat or any other stat changes the frequency of criticals.

[Viridiana]

Here is why i believe this: In the numbers presented in the graph, with 340 CHR you have a ~6% chance to land a critical. with 440 CHR you have effectively increased that to ~12% chance. So if these numbers truly have a linear relationship, then by definition decreasing you CHR from 340 to 240 you would literally have ~0% chance of a critical hit

Your base crit rating at level 50 (where testing was done) is 341. Your base crit rate is ~5%. The values given apply to increases beyond the base level, at which point it becomes linear.