(Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread

[HamHam]

Everyone is completely missing Kevee's point too, btw.

The point is, there has been no change to bane. It works exactly as it has worked before. This is a tooltip change.

So stop raging everywhere. You're making us look bad. You are just as effective as you were last week.

My argument was there is no reason to cap our bane, because it would just put us on equal footing with BLM (which, admittedly, does have the best sustained aoe bar none).

But obviously the devs think otherwise.

Oh well.

Guess you'll have to put your DL gear on your BLM if you want to speedrun WP faster, until the inevitable WP nerf.

You get what I was referring to. BLM can sustain and do aoe dmg faster than a SMN. This is the reason they are preferred to do dungeon speed runs or any other type of speed runs.

[Kevee]

You get what I was referring to. BLM can sustain and do aoe dmg faster than a SMN. This is the reason they are preferred to do dungeon speed runs or any other type of speed runs.

No, BLM is only preferred for 8 minute WPSR. Only when there's consistently 5+ targets. A well-geared run with SMN/BRD will only take 10-11 minutes, and that's because with a SMN you can skip the same trash pack as BLM due to Tri-Disaster.

Everywhere else, SMN is, or should be, preferred. You don't generally see 5+ target pulls elsewhere, because you either use cannons, or do death-runs. If people are preferring BLM right now, it's just because of the WP hype. It's the same thing affecting WARs right now--With their negative hype. They can function just fine in, relatively, all content. The only 2 things they are absolutely barred from is 8-10 minute WPSR and Turn 5. If you ask the community, though, they're **** and should never be used.

[HamHam]

No, BLM is only preferred for 8 minute WPSR. Only when there's consistently 5+ targets. A well-geared run with SMN/BRD will only take 10-11 minutes, and that's because with a SMN you can skip the same trash pack as BLM due to Tri-Disaster.

Everywhere else, SMN is, or should be, preferred. You don't generally see 5+ target pulls elsewhere, because you either use cannons, or do death-runs. If people are preferring BLM right now, it's just because of the WP hype. It's the same thing affecting WARs right now--With their negative hype. They can function just fine in, relatively, all content. The only 2 things they are absolutely barred from is 8-10 minute WPSR and Turn 5. If you ask the community, though, they're **** and should never be used.

As for Tri-Disaster, it can be in part with sleep to hold the mobs, but that's not the point here.

The point I was making is that BLM can dish aoe dmg at a faster pace than a SMN, as I explained, a blm can do Flare (for big dmg) back to back in a short fight, AND still get MP back to continue a fire aoe dmg rotation. Where as SMN can't dish that type of dmg at a fast pace as BLM can.

I have experienced in both BLM and SMN and I can tell you the comparison I made is true.

Now, I noticed that you don't have blm leveled to 50, so it can be hard to understand what I'm saying from that point of view.