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  1. #71
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    Bluewhite's Avatar
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    Nameless Shadowblade
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    Masamune
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ariyn View Post
    I would take a bard in every group even if they did get a slight nerf. They are just too good to have.
    Only event you'd ever need songs/silence from BRD to worth a spot is coil. Everything else, lv 50 dungeons/primal if you try to join a party as BRD they will replay with "BRD no thanks" if damage is nerfed. In fact they don't always taking BRD for Titan/AK, many AK /shout party often /shout for a melee DPS, this is before damage nerf.

    And that is specifically what I don't want to see it happen. I don't want every BRD ended up having to beat titan by having 4~5 other DPS carrying him, and job change to another job to farm mythology.

    If the damage nerf is huge, you'll see people find a way to beat coil without a BRD and find a solution to MP/TP/silence issue.
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  2. #72
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Everyone needs to switch job to tank class to get groups anyway.

    In what world do you HONESTLY believe they are going to take Bard's dps and cut it basically in half? No where. Don't be a troll doomsayer.

    Unless of course, you believe something like 150 potency to 140 potency is "huge".
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  3. #73
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    Nooblet Gg
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    Coeurl
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    No-one said anything about half.. but bards are already on the low end of dps.. so any lower is pushing it.
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  4. #74
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    Masane Mekhar
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    There is third options of nerf Bard they can incerase cool-down on some skill and in battle you will need to wait longer for these skills and dps will be lower.
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  5. #75
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    Mystical Kobi
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post

    Unless of course, you believe something like 150 potency to 140 potency is "huge".
    IT IS HUGE, for the simple fact that BRD is already at the bottom of the DPS chart
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  6. #76
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    Azra Eretai
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 25
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkh View Post
    IT IS HUGE, for the simple fact that BRD is already at the bottom of the DPS chart
    OP you are having a panic attack right now due to uncertainty and I can fully understand, I don't have to have all lv50 to show empathy for someones favorite class being screwed over, I've experienced that many times before. However do not fret, they did not really specify what the nerf would be HOWEVER what they did do is point out what issue melee/magic DPS has and where they see an unbalanced inconsistency with bard. Melee/magic dps is too prone to interruption of cast spells and experiences much more danger, which hinders dps. What I gather from reading what he emphasized on is that bard will most likely be getting a mechanical nerf, meaning interruption casting when using moves like bloodletter or misery's end while moving, perhaps even giving them a small cast time as well.
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  7. #77
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    Azra Eretai
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 25
    (continued)
    I dont mind such a change and do feel it is appropriate, Bard DPS is not maximized by sheer number it's maximized by the sheer mobility. Mobility is what exponentially increases your DPS potential even if you do low base damage, with less hindering you from dpsing you have more up time and well I think you get the idea. With that being said, rightfully trust that SE will give us a cooldown and add interruptions to those moves (bloodletter and Misrery's End) to significantly decrease up time. However prepare yourself for the worst, which in your case and I admit even mine would be the horrifying event of lowering the direct potency altogether. I don't think any class that does dps wants to be purposefully weak and at a disadvantage, it sets the stage for unneeded player discrimination, bias, and stereotype.
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  8. #78
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    Character
    Charas Mindtricks
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    I do have a feeling the incoming nerf won't be at all about cast time or i d k what... coz if it iwas, i would want to then see my skills hit for 600+ as the ones from BLM do and that in aoe.
    It should only concerne the crossclass skills, and this still makes me worried. Even if i could completly live without BfB and could understand why they want to not make us able to have access to it, the cross class skill i would miss the most is Invigorate.
    I do use Invigorate on CD most of the time, be it for aoe fights or even single target fight. This move would force us to use our TP song and no others during most of the fights, and then force us to inflict ourselves a -20% dmg debuff constantly just to not run out of TP within 30 sec, and this would really not be a move i would apreciate.
    So Plz, if anyone from the SE is reading this, consider to give us some possibilities other than invigorate to temper our TP lust, in the case you guys were about to not give us access anymore to lancer skills.
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    Last edited by Charas; 10-27-2013 at 04:17 AM.

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