BARD NERF [requesting more details to the devs]

[Arkh]

As you people know, in the next 2.1 patch Bards will get a nerf. Yoshida said in the interview "We currently feel that the bards are a little too strong due to the amount of damage they can do without being impacted that much from the fight."

I think this could mean 2 different thing:

a) we get a damage nerf and we keep our "mobility" (chunk of potency removed from skills)
b) they reduce our mobility and we keep the "damage" (added cast bar or tassative positional "buff" added to the game)
Im currently farming TURN 4 whit my FC, and we are used to play whit atleast 4 parser up while doing events.
BRD is NOT (and i reapeat NOT) capable of doing the DPS that the other class can do in endgame (endgame = coil)
Now as a main BRD id like to know more details about the future nerf because as now, with the "capped x week" contents i cant afford to spend more time and effort in a class that could be destroyed in the next patch.

[NeonC]

Just put em on the shelf and work on another character in the meantime.

[hyachona]

I think this could mean 2 different thing:

a) we get a damage nerf and we keep our "mobility" (chunk of potency removed from skills)
b) they reduce our mobility and we keep the "damage" (added cast bar or tassative positional "buff" added to the game)
Im currently farming TURN 4 whit my FC, and we are used to play whit atleast 4 parser up while doing events.
BRD is NOT (and i reapeat NOT) capable of doing the DPS that the other class can do in endgame (endgame = coil)
Now as a main BRD id like to know more details about the future nerf because as now, whit the "capped x week" contents i cant afford to spend more time and effort in a class that could be destroyed in the next patch.

Nerfed=\=destroyed. Too many ppl screaming it\\'s the end of the world when it could end up being "added a cast time to bloodletter" or something tiny.

[Arkh]

It may not be a problem for you, but for me it is. My static move as one, we could focus the effort in gearing the 2 main BRDs into something else instead of waiting for whatever the devs decide the BRD to be. We assign loot to make our static stronger, and this impact the loot assignment
In a game like this one,in this year and whit the current endgame player base you cannot simply say "hmm we think that X does too much Y" and leave whitout giving more info on the problem.

[Riot55]

Or you might just not freak about it and wait. They might not even touch Bard and just buff everyone else. Calm down.

[Arkh]

Or you might just not freak about it and wait. They might not even touch Bard and just buff everyone else. Calm down.

not in this universe my friend

I dont know about you guys, but i farm TURN4 like i farmed AK at release. My BRD is probably better geared then the majority of the people telling me "itsn not the end of the world".

No one said that, im just requesting more info from the devs. Because (it may shock you guys, take a sit) we are paying customers and we can voice our problems with the product we bought/are paying for. If you guys dont need to/want to optimize your static/fc/whatever, it is not my problem.
We play for the group and assigning ilvl90 must be done correctly.
If we have to regear our BRD's we want to know it now, not whenever they feel to give us a bone (lolsemi translate from japanese patch note 2 days after the patch hit the game).

less white knight, more highend players please

[Kolaina]

Or you might just not freak about it and wait. They might not even touch Bard and just buff everyone else. Calm down.

they did this in Aion and it worked horribly. Assassin was the most technical class, Those that got good at it, got real good at it. Managing stun locks in pvp, micro managing buffs, etc. The only class with out an "I win" button. People complained the class was over powered, so they saw nerf after nerf. People still complained. The solution.... allow all classes that can weild 2 handed weapons (every class but assassin btw) to be able to combine 2 weapons receiving the added attributes of the secondary weapon, and half its damage. Sins quickly became a joke in pvp. Also added a get out of stun free + immunity to stun for 10 seconds (not sure about the time, been a while since i played).

[Zellata]

they did this in Aion and it worked horribly. Assassin was the most technical class, Those that got good at it, got real good at it. Managing stun locks in pvp, micro managing buffs, etc. The only class with out an "I win" button. People complained the class was over powered, so they saw nerf after nerf. People still complained. The solution.... allow all classes that can weild 2 handed weapons (every class but assassin btw) to be able to combine 2 weapons receiving the added attributes of the secondary weapon, and half its damage. Sins quickly became a joke in pvp. Also added a get out of stun free + immunity to stun for 10 seconds (not sure about the time, been a while since i played).

It didn't quite go like that. Sin had an "I win" button in a form of packing silencing (or paralyzing) godstones in both weapons. Initially they could literally mash their face on the keyboard and still win a 1v1 pvp fight. After ncsoft added that stun immunity sins indeed became a joke as they lost ability to stun-lock didn't have anything else to bring to the party.

A cast-animation for the Bard ?! ... Bards don't have any cast-animation, oh wait there are the actual songs, which the Bard cast for 3 seconds.

Animation time and cast time are two completely different things.

[Kolaina]

It didn't quite go like that. Sin had an "I win" button in a form of packing silencing (or paralyzing) godstones in both weapons. Initially they could literally mash their face on the keyboard and still win a 1v1 pvp fight. After ncsoft added that stun immunity sins indeed became a joke as they lost ability to stun-lock didn't have anything else to bring to the party.

in the earlier stages of the game godstones werent so easily aquired. especially as an asmodian. you either god extremely lucky with a drop, which probably wasnt the case, or you pvpd high ranked enemies for a quest to get 1 godstone. "I win" buttons were sorc sleep skill timed with a nuke, archer naturally stun on crit (which was very consistent), tank defense buff, healer.... well, heal, chanter and glad naturally ability to knock down along with chanters buffs or glad ankle snare. and the ultimate "I win" button was the summoners endless chain of fears. none of these needed godstones and were naturally part of these classes

[Zellata]

in the earlier stages of the game godstones werent so easily aquired. especially as an asmodian. you either god extremely lucky with a drop, which probably wasnt the case, or you pvpd high ranked enemies for a quest to get 1 godstone.

You could always buy one from the auction house - it was just a matter of grinding enough kinah (which was a royal pain in the rear, but it's a korean grinder game we're talking about).