Quote Originally Posted by davidbowie View Post
lol enough of this crap make a special forum for snowflakes who think the sky is falling then they can go spout doom and gloom all day as one big family of tinfoil hat followers.
This happens all the time on MMO forums.

I think WoW has been getting declared 'dead' every day, at least 20 times a day, since about 2006...

GW2, same thing. From a week out after launch people were calling it a dead and failed MMO. Its near doubled in playerbase since then, and arguably has a higher concurrency (people logged in at the same time) than WoW. It is known to have the highest ever one-time concurrency, 450,000 to WoW's highest ever 425,000. And its still growing. But people say its dead all the time.

FFXIV... Launched a bit funny with what seemed like the devs pre-launch predicting it would not do too well, and so preparing for a release that seemed to be just catering to 'fanservice' and 'honor / restore company reputation'... and then oops... it hit the ball out of the park and launched HUGE. And yeah... still growing. New people popping in everyday as they learn the core issues at launch have been solved and copies are for sale again. This is arguably the number 3 MMO in the west right now. And its positioned very well. It plays a LOT like WoW... only its new, not an older stale thing...

This is the "WoW clone" that did it right by getting the things WoW did right, adding a little bit of new, updating graphics, having better story (by a long shot), and focusing on the part most players like: PvE (other WoW clones seem to have tried to be different by having new forms of PvP - which failed to gain them players).

This game needs to really screw it up big to fail now.

Its just positioned a little too well, and doing a little too good, to fail without something weird coming along.

The only real threat to this game is EQNext, and arguably that's a threat to GW2 and not FFXIV. EQNext intends to do what GW2 said it would do but didn't: Be a true next gen MMO. FFXIV on the other hand, is promising to be 'the last innovation of the old way for MMOs, done right.' EQNext players will likely come more from GW2 than from here. Whereas as people slowly trickly out of WoW and wonder what to do next, they'll notice this game still have 'LFG', 'trinity', and like concepts...

Which is why FFXIV is over 1.5 million now, and still growing.