Seriously

[Someonewithclap]

Its amazing how I, nor any people in my coil group or FC seems to have this crazy lag people speak of.

We have players from all over europe, US, and Austrailla.

[Furon]

No what is amazing is that you come to the technical forum and make a reply saying you don't have any problems, that's truly amazing.
It would be like me going to a cancer support group and saying "Hey its amazing, "I" don't have cancer, nor do any of the people i know ..weird huh??!"

That wouldnt really help much, infact i would probably just piss off alot of people needlessly.

[ntall1]

I play many hours a week on two servers in the NA/EU farm with pretty much no lag, and most of the FC on one of them don't have problems either (I'm not currently in an FC on the other) .. seems your assertion is simply wrong.

You ppl without the issue need to stop commenting the way you are. It is more than clear due to the amount of posts on this forum about this issue that it is a real issue. Take the time to read before jumping in and attacking the OP because you do not have the same problem. Tons of ppl are suffering this issue. Tons of ppl are not suffering this issue. We already know this.

If you do not have the lag issue. Than please keep your comments to yourself about how its a user end issue. It is not, and if you think it still is I can link at least 50 posts with more than enough info to prove it is a real problem. We know what the issue is. We just want SE to acknowledge it and speak with us customers about it and its potential fix and ETA.

[worldofneil]

Furon, your original post said about "huge percentage of the playerbase" which I can only assume was based on your other statement of "its unplayable during primetime for 80% of my guild". Your FC according to the lodestone though is 13 people, so that 10/11 people having lag issues.

I can see on the forums that there are a lot of people with lag issues, but percentage wise, it would appear this is actually only a smaller amount of the players who are actually playing the game. Those of us without lag (myself included), aren't creating threads to say we don't have lag (why would we?) and then the times that people (like Someonewithclap above) tries to point out that the lag doesn't affect everyone, they get shouted at.

I can link at least 50 posts with more than enough info to prove it is a real problem.

I think it's a bit higher than 50 people, but as demonstrated at TGS 2013, there's over a million players. Now that was a month ago, but even if only 25% of those actually kept playing, that's still 50/250,000 = 0.0002%

[Furon]

Seriously , what the hell are you talking about?

50 people?

The guy above said he could easily find 50 POST's, and as each one of them range from 3-8 pages i dont think 50 people are having issues with the lag, i mean theres only 2-3 posts about blackscreen when closing the game and that got hotfixxed within 72 hours, and i think alot more then those 20 people posting in that thread had problems closing the game.

Please do at least a minimum of research before posting more crap here, on reddit theres thousand's of individual comments on the LAG in ff14, dating from over a month back to today.

Theres a 140 page long post at the top of this forum that's stickied that is about the lag issues people are having in the game.

So try guesstimating again please, or better yet please don't and just go play your imaginary lag free version of ff14.

[worldofneil]

The guy above said he could easily find 50 POST's

I just used the wording that the poster wrote, and even put in my post that I thought it was higher than that. If they meant 50 threads, they should have wrote 50 threads (50 posts are 50 or less people since only one person can write a post).

and as each one of them range from 3-8 pages

Okay so 50 threads at 8 pages a thread = 50x10x8 = 4000 even though the real figure is much lower as people have posted more than once.

4000 / 250,000 players = 0.016%

Even adding a 140 page thread you mentioned (another 1400 posts even though realistically people have posted more than once and/or were already included in the previous amount) would give:

5400 / 250,000 = 0.0216%

The 250,000 figure is obviously a guess, they haven't released figures other than the million people that were playing at the TGS, but I'm sure it's higher than the 25% figure I'm using now, but for demonstration purposes I'm using intentionally lower figures. My previous point was/still is that it's a small percentage who are affected.

i mean theres only 2-3 posts about blackscreen when closing the game and that got hotfixxed within 72 hours

Which goes further to demonstrate that SE can only fix errors that are within their control. Your networking routing is not within their control.

I'm sure I'm coming across as a complete jerk and for what it's worth I am sorry that you are having lag issues, especially as this game is so awesome you should be able to play it as intended, but you're not in the majority, so please stop posting like you are.

[Will01]

I just used the wording that the poster wrote, and even put in my post that I thought it was higher than that. If they meant 50 threads, they should have wrote 50 threads (50 posts are 50 or less people since only one person can write a post).



Okay so 50 threads at 8 pages a thread = 50x10x8 = 4000 even though the real figure is much lower as people have posted more than once.

4000 / 250,000 players = 0.016%

Even adding a 140 page thread you mentioned (another 1400 posts even though realistically people have posted more than once and/or were already included in the previous amount) would give:

5400 / 250,000 = 0.0216%

The 250,000 figure is obviously a guess, they haven't released figures other than the million people that were playing at the TGS, but I'm sure it's higher than the 25% figure I'm using now, but for demonstration purposes I'm using intentionally lower figures. My previous point was/still is that it's a small percentage who are affected.

There is one major flaw in this logic, it assumes everyone with the problem has taken to the forums.

[worldofneil]

There is one major flaw in this logic, it assumes everyone with the problem has taken to the forums.

Which means you're assuming there are considerably more people with lag issues that those that have posted on the forums. Where are they?

I'm haven't been assuming anything, I'm just pointing out the the information we do know, which is that the people with lag problems are in the extreme minority. If there are considerably more people with lag problems, where are they if they're not posting on the official forums?

It's not like these forums are a secret, especially since a lot of the responses SE email/phone support seems to give people is to post their problems on the forums.

The official "Feedback/suggestions" link is also direct to the forums too:

http://support.eu.square-enix.com/co...383&la=2&fty=3

[Sax]

Can't stand these people that think because they have not been 90k'd constantly or experience the lag that makes the game unplayable that it doesn't exist.

There is a large portion of the player base who are experiencing difficulties. Most of the people who have reported on this site have spoken with ISPs numerous times (myself included) run countless tests and for these people, all answers point to the problem being on SE's end of things.

Congrats if you have a constant and stable connection to the game, you should go and enjoy it instead of crapping all over the people that are having a real problem with SE. I was actually not having that much difficulty staying connected until the recent 'fix' and now I get booted every couple of minutes making the game unplayable.

I hope the same happens to all of you who say this is not a problem, just so we can point and laugh when you come crying to the forums when you realize there is no where else to get help for this.

[Drackony]

I play on Marlboro, listed as one of the lower population worlds, and the lag I was experiencing tonight was terrible. I ran trace routes then pings to every hop and the only problem was 10%+ packet loss at the destination server, which is the game server. All other hops were 0% packet loss. Please do something Square Enix!