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Thread: Tank mentality.

  1. #191
    Player
    Gandora's Avatar
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    Cerulean Knight
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by konflikti View Post
    I have had groups that all have Relic+1s taking as long as guys with Ifrits on the wall. Sure, there are limits with how bad gear you can do it, but player skill plays a major factor too.
    The player make the relic & not the other way around for sure, but as Ervin said its not hard to dodge the purple lines, it does not take a big skill to do, just some concentration.
    My point was that, when the bees pop at 15-20%, you know that there is a little problem and its where better gears will make a difference, you have to focus less on dodging the lines and the wall pushing you out because the fight should last less time.
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  2. #192
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    KristianFortNox's Avatar
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    Kristian Fortnox
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    You know just now I found out that if someone used Topaz and Titan Summons mean that person don't trust the Tank. To be honest I feel like make it Tanking easier for me. Yea as Tank i should get all the argo but why not little help on Tank beside using my Paladin's Def Buff and/or Warrior Health Stealing abilities. I don't see it as they don't trust m I see it as he wants to help.

    Also to be honest i been a lot of people who being mean to me for no good reason. I going be honest with you guys. I want to them let die so badly they make fun me so bad. But i can't.....

    I don't know guys all hear in this Topic of Tank Mentality I agree with some of you guys. There are people who just dicks to raise off the other people pain. Tank got the mentality you can't do this without me is dumb as hell. To be honest I can't do half crap i did without sever and community helps and I don't know why people don't just say thank you community or sever.
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  3. #193
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    Zazakura's Avatar
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    Zazakura Nonokura
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    Phoenix
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I'm not myself either a shiny bucket of good thoughts, honestly even though I took break from tanking roles for over 2 years some mentality of "you are leader, you are one who paces group, you are tallest wall between mobs and party but also one who takes all responsibility" doesn't fade but along whit it comes also easy to spark D-bag mode.

    Honestly what can I say... tanks can be nice players but for that group can no be worse than bad (or just plain retarded) or d-bagging, be that and tank sparks D-bag mode too ...I sure do at least
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  4. #194
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    ExarKun007's Avatar
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    Exxar Kun
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    Cactuar
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    It isn't the role, it's the people. Either the tank is a douchebag naturally, or whatever people are in the group are doing something to cause it. 95% of the people I get into groups with in the DF are great people. The rest are incompetent, impatient, or just ignorant. You can't control it anymore than the rest of us can. If they're impatient and pull, let em tank. If they can't control aggro, let em tank. If they are just ignorant, educate them. If they don't learn, let em tank. It's really simple.
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  5. #195
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    Ehayte's Avatar
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    Supply Demand
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 72
    Amazing this thread is still alive, lol. Maybe I can summarize the general sentiment via TL,DR:

    A) We, as tanks, will usually take the lead because we are amazing and cool and good at sports and the guitar. But it sucks when we are expected to know things that other players don't ever "need" to know, when those particular aspects should be a shared experience.
    B) There is an accusation about tanks being flighty, hard to deal with, or ornery. You will run into horrible players of every class, and you probably direct your hate of horrible players at the tanks because their mistakes are the most visible and impactful.
    C) Knibb High Football rules!!!
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  6. #196
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    Disrupter Regicide
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    Leviathan
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    TANKING IS MY PATH TO AUTOCRATIC DESPOTISM
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    Feeling nostalgic? So are we.

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  7. #197
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    Firescorpio Hyrrdraumr
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disrupter View Post
    TANKING IS MY PATH TO AUTOCRATIC DESPOTISM
    i cannot like this more than once, but thanks for making my day lmao
    stealing this for new sig lol
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  8. #198
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    Zoomie Vi
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    Brynhildr
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    Culinarian Lv 50
    I personally don't understand tanks who rage for any reason. Do i get frustrated, sure. Do I encounter terrible groups that I eventually leave, sure. Do I freak out at said group prior to leaving, never.

    A typical Amdapor Keep run with Zoomie:

    Experienced group? Awesome, I have macros that explain my "challenge" mode on all bosses. We're about to have a great time.

    Inexperienced group? Also awesome, welcome to AK. I ALSO have macros that explain each fight. Please listen up and I will show you how AK is supposed to go.

    I mark everything ALL THE TIME, its my job, why wouldn't I? I chain pull all the time unless someone needs MP, expediency is golden.

    My job as the tank is so facilitate the cleanest, fastest, funnest run possible. Meanwhile I tell random, funny, outlandish stories while tanking bosses if I have time, lol.

    Long story short: I love tanking, you will love me being your tank, we're gonna have a good time.
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  9. #199
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    kasuke06's Avatar
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    Kasoka Croixe
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    honestly, I think I'm more of a dick when I'm healing or DPS'ing.

    from healing it's getting to be in the back row, and seeing where people go wrong. and when I'm DPS'ing, I'm usually a back row fighter as well, or at least I play very well(force of habit. It was impressed upon me when I was little that there is no shame in losing, only shame is in not even trying in the first place. so I study and practice my class and role, even making points to use the more obscure moves for utility)

    When I tank, I'm in something's face, trying to make sure that nothing goes wrong, because if I screw up, total party wipe happens. No time for focussing on that monk who's not using their positionals, or the dragoon who isn't jumping on cooldown/using it as a part of their combos[I like to throw mine in right after my full thrust for some added burst]) if it dies, and nobody else dies, I did my job, and that's enough.

    Unless they do something that irks me. Like fiddling with my marks. or waking sleepy, or ignoring the marks. then I give one chance, explain what went wrong, and if they refuse to improve, then I simply say "Done." and walk out the front door.
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  10. #200
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I like it Zoomie, maybe I should macro some jokes!
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