Tank mentality.

[zenmetsu]

Really? I get the most passive tanks. Whenever I join the hard modes of the primals, they are very indifferent of becoming the main tank or the other tank. "You choose, Creed."

Yup. As a WAR, I love teaming up with good PLDs. I have no preference, main or off tank. If I off-tank, I constantly debuff the mob with Storm's eye so that both tanks get the slashing damage boost and thus the party moves faster and the PLD has an easier time with enmity. When I main-tank, many PLDs will throw stoneskin on me from time to time, especially on Ifrit and Garuda when there is downtime due to teleports, etc.

[zenmetsu]

Considering the fact that my only LV50 job is WAR, I guess I don't have too much experience with other tanks, except for 8-man runs where there may be a second tank. Most players do not give me a hard time when something bad happens since I will always be forthcoming and admit to making a mistake. Some people screw up and immediately blame someone else, and this is the hallmark of douchebaggery. I can assure you that it happens with DPS and healers quite a bit; this is not exclusive to tanks.

A good example is Titan hard mode. So many people are willing to jump to conclusions and judge someone by their gear. Seriously, the fight is not THAT hard... you just need people that can dodge attacks. When I watch Titan failure videos, or PUG Titan to help someone with progression, I almost always notice that the person yelling "go get better gear, you are wiping us" is the person that got hit by a bomb, blown off the ledge, etc.

[Garotte14]

Tanks do get a lot of crap, healers probably second most, and barely seem to hear from too many DPS. I'm a healer and I don't mind when a Tank takes control of the situation. I don't expect it, but I feel they are in charge. With that being said, I don't like when tanks get pissed off if a party member does something different than they are used to. As a healer in endgame, every tank seems to need to be healed in a different way. There are times when I can spam cure II on a tank and never pull hate, and then there are times where a single cure will give me instant threat, and then I get bitched at for overhealing or what not. I have to cater my healing to the tank and his ability to keep aggro. I don't overheal though, and I just hate getting bitched at for pulling hate. Cause 99% of the time its either I pull hate by casting or I let the tank die.

[Bers]

It seems my experience is a bit different here but out of 100s of DF runs, I've only ran into a handful of complete assholes. I'm inclined to believe that the majority of the problems people run into partially stem from the attitudes that they themselves bring into the party. How many parties start up and no one says hey? Or end without anyone saying good run/thanks for the party? How many people on here think it's the other guys fault, without making any effort of their own to be friendly from the get-go?

That's why I make sure to always start a run with some sort of greeting, I mean if you're a tank and consider yourself the "leader" of the party, then isn't it important for the "leader" to set the mood and lead by example? It's all about perspective imo, come in with a friendly demeanor and more often than not, it'll rub off. And from my experiences over the 11~ years I've been tanking, a little friendliness at the start can go a long way =D.

[CrazyDuck]

im a tank and a healer and ive had my fair shard of dbag dps and healers.

[Novaspawn]

"Jap is an English abbreviation of the word "Japanese." Today it is generally regarded as an ethnic slur among Japanese minority populations in other countries... during and after the events of World War II, the term became derogatory"

The majority of us are bitter because we're sick of the crap we have to deal with from DD and healers. DD engaging before the tank and complaining about losing threat. DD not AoEing on 3+ mob pulls. DD not being able to take criticism without crapping blood. DD not knowing which targets have priority. I will say this though; people also need to remember that FFXIV:ARR carries people to 50 on a silver platter so you will be getting fresh 50s who have absolutely no idea how to do their job because all they had to do was spam AoEs for 50 levels. There is a lot of reason why tanks are jerks but mostly it's because we are sick of everyone else being jerks/ignorant. Atleast I am, however I'm never rude. I normally just say why I'm leaving then leave.

[Novaspawn]

My post was a lot longer but 1000 character cap ruined it. That's why it looks like it jumps around.

[Viridiana]

My post was a lot longer but 1000 character cap ruined it. That's why it looks like it jumps around.

Just edit the post, and you can get around the 1k limit. >_>

[DesuGenesis]

Man I have no idea as to what makes a good tank or a bad one, but the instances I've been in (only a total of four), and everytime we've wiped people owned up to their mistakes and we tried it again. But i still don't know what the hell I'm doing so hopefully that changes by 50

[HaplessHermit]

Man I have no idea as to what makes a good tank or a bad one, but the instances I've been in (only a total of four), and everytime we've wiped people owned up to their mistakes and we tried it again. But i still don't know what the hell I'm doing so hopefully that changes by 50

You learn as you go, and if you're doing something wrong (this will happen to all of us), hopefully someone will constructively correct you. For instance, I had no idea how the enmity on Regen worked until maybe five levels after I had gotten it... once it was explained to me, everything became clear and things became much smoother for everyone. For people willing to listen and learn, all it takes is a nudge in the right direction.