devs attitude to players

[Masked]

Titan wasn't in Beta....

I actually meant the lag as an instance, not the lag in THAT specific instance. I.E. Garuda, Ifrit, AK, WP - Etc. Any dungeon instance.

Zooming out, is in essence, ignoring the problem...A problem that legitimately exists...And basically is telling the end user "We have no issues, you're just bad".

I'm on F/O - Business F/O considering I run several servers. Never lagged in any MMO, until now.

If you run a pathway monitor, you can actually witness the change in ping delay...Happen right before your very eyes.

From an admin perspective, this is extremely simple to check -- You proxy to a NA server location and connection to the game...Takes 2 minutes, literally.

This needs to be addressed, not ignored...And the sheer fact that they fail to address something so simple...Leaves us //all// in a lurch...And makes me wonder why I'm paying $15/month for an admin that's not even capable of doing his/her job.

[Ryger7]

So a Dev making a suggestion/tip and by no means stating or labeling these players as bad is now considered an insult?

A Dev asking players with issues regarding lag/P2P throttling to post their provider info in a thread that was posted on 08-30-2013 and a Sticky, so they can address these providers is an insult?

That thread is two months old and has 139 pages of replies from customers who are experiencing this issue, yet no further comments has been made by the devs since the thread was created. I can't believe you used that as an example. -.-

For reference, this is the thread we are talking about: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/74559-Request-for-information-ISPs-and-P2P-throttling

[Mordermi]

Well then how do you explain the thread that I linked which was move to accepted bugs?

I'd just like to note that being moved to "Accepted Bugs" means that the report was accepted for SE to investigate, and NOT that they have admitted to it being a bug. A mod elaborated on this in another thread, though I can't remember which one.

[Shyluv]

Where was it that he said this? Last live letter? Is there a translation of it?

[Melithea]

I memorized the fight, have actually downed Titan @ 5 times to date and I STILL get caught in effects that I'm not standing in because of the delay.

Exactly. It's one thing to actually be bad. It's another thing to be bad and not even know it. But I'm not blind. When I can run clear of an aoe marking, stop, turn, begin casting a spell, and THEN get hit by it - that's not me being bad. That's an alternate reality. I killed Garuda HM a couple times yesterday and the lag was so bad that my casting bar was rubber banding. Literally my casting bar. It would charge up, then decrease, charge up more, then decrease, etc. Time a Medica II properly during the adds while THAT crap is happening.

This is why you JUMP in Titan -- It resets the 300ms trace and HOPEFULLY, the server isn't lagging so it instantly registers your new position.

Good to know. I thought these were just twitchy PS3 players with a finger constantly on the jump button, but I guess I'll try this a bit.

[ReplicaX]

That thread is two months old and has 139 pages of replies from customers who are experiencing this issue, yet no further comments has been made by the devs since the thread was created. I can't believe you used that as an example. -.-

For reference, this is the thread we are talking about: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...P2P-throttling

Live Letter Oct. 19, he stated once again from a question regarding "EU lag issues". To submit your ISP info to that specific thread.

I used that example as it was mention in the most recent Live Letter. Relax.

y; we have lots of talk about this, it’s said it’s wifi or ISP and right now we’re working on it but as community reps asked on forums, please give details on which ISP you’re using and other small details. So we can check into them, and for some we’ll be contacting directly to test different methods to try and resolve this issue.

[Shaone]

That thread is two months old and has 139 pages of replies from customers who are experiencing this issue, yet no further comments has been made by the devs since the thread was created. I can't believe you used that as an example. -.-

Yep they really do seem to be slacking on this. My ISP is doing everything they can, but strongly believe the issue is -somewhere- upstream from from. Just did some digging around to find SE's ISP for that data centre (pretty certain since it has an endorsement from Eidos on their homepage, but I'm not going to name them). Worrying.

[Dragonskin]

Meh, if anything it's the players that have terrible attitudes and the devs that usually get abused. If a dev tells players L2P then I can't help but give the devs props unless it's clearly something THEY can control. Even if the issue is within their product it would be down to the data centers that they use, which is a variable outside of their control. All people have issues with servers at some point. While I have occsionally experienced lag noticeable in situations like Titan it's not usually consistant. It could be any number of variables between my modem and their data center. It's not like when I log into FFXIV that I magically get some direct feed straight to their data center. "Fixing" the issue is a lot more complicated than your average player can comprehend.

[Pseudopsia]

yoshi's response to our complaints about lag in fights (mainly titan) as telling us to zoom out that we are bad players is very alarming and infuriating if this sort of attitude continues i don't see this game living on. this is not early 2000 anymore if you insult your customers they will leave.

I like it that Yoshida speaks his mind because I get his honest opinion, however it's not good business. I'm sure he gets yelled at by his PR team.

[Lobselvith]

It's not, it's confirmed with the ISP and others having it too.

http://community.plus.net/forum/inde...,118895.0.html

And before any suggestion of my PC being under spec, it's i7-3820 on Asus Rampage IV socket 2011 mobo, 16 gb quad channel DDR3 PC3-12800, OC GTX680 (planning on upgrading or adding another when DX11 client comes out, my focus was on core component longevity for this build), high speed SSD storage only. Runs like a dream, on maximum (benches well over 10k)

(p.s. on win 8 with kaspersky, wired ethernet, and my security is on lock down and that PC is gaming+teamspeak+netflix only too, I use tablets and laptop for general use and browsing)

are you using a WiFi Connection to your Router?