Myth tomb cap should be per job

[Sidious]

This is, in fact, still the start of A Realm Reborn. However.

The fact that this game was recreated in the time that it did, should not be downplayed. You are playing an entirely new game, which is still within it's first financial quarter IE- it's just starting. It was a year before Zilart came out, and even that seemed sparse to the FFXI initial endgame players.

We are -not- playing an "entirely new game". An entirely new game wouldn't use many of the same resources, mechanics for several fights (the Ifrit fight, for example), etc.

FFXIV was released in 2010. That is the fact that should not be downplayed when considering ARR's vices and virtues.

Abyssea along with adoulin. Your point is non existant.

I think you very clearly missed the point in question.

[Overon]

As of now because of being able to level all jobs to 50 with the same Character we have a bunch of meaningless expendable players
Makes doing Events beyond easy because everyone is easily replaced

This game already breeds the worst players socially ever in a MMO.

So no I am against this , you should have to work for something . Even if it feels like boring tear jerking grind ...........
Often as is this game feels almost pointless as there is no real long term goals .

Edit: The only things I can see that would be good that comes from this is , it would force me to get off my WHM doing AK's and get on my BLM so I can be like the normal joe and wait in a ever lasting que.

[Hyrist]

We are -not- playing an "entirely new game". An entirely new game wouldn't use many of the same resources, mechanics for several fights (the Ifrit fight, for example), etc.

FFXIV was released in 2010. That is the fact that should not be downplayed when considering ARR's vices and virtues.

This displays your lack of understanding of the circumstances, or coding.

The resources you are referring to are moot fillers compared to what was reconstructed, from the ground up. Even the mechanics of the Primal Fights, which you try to use an example, had to be reconstructed from scratch, even though the land and modeling textures, did not.

Even the mathematical equations for determining damage has been fundamentally reworked, the fact that many aspects of specific fights (which are a striking minority of the game's content) are similar are actually an increase in workload, not a decrease. It is the quintessential difference between replication, and duplication, you falsely assume the latter - much to the discredit of your argument.

Using pre-established model presets saved them time in the graphical department, which is fortunate considering the depth of reconstruction other, larger projects, such as the map, likely costed them in development time.

The fact that this game continues off of a pre-existing lore is irrelevant compared to the amount of work done in the time-frame taken. The fact that you attempt to discredit this fact based off of comparatively trivial shortcuts taken in comparison to the new content created and the pre-existing content that had to be faithfully recreated displays your lack of understanding of the circumstances you complain under.

This is a new game. No less of a new game than one Castlevania to another, reused graphical assets or not.

[Tupsi]

This displays your lack of understanding of the circumstances, or coding.

The resources you are referring to are moot fillers compared to what was reconstructed, from the ground up. Even the mechanics of the Primal Fights, which you try to use an example, had to be reconstructed from scratch, even though the land and modeling textures, did not.

With the exception of Titan (as we only seen his model, battle arena and general move list) Garuda and Ifrit are pretty much the same fights with some changes, but lore wise, they're the same - model wise, the same and so on, that was his example of this not being "an entirely new game."

Yes, they threw in the generic Quest Based leveling progression found in almost every MMO past and present, but at it's core, we still are doing the same content that was introduced in 1.x of FFXIV, released in 2010. Guildleves? Exactly the same concept and system, it was modified in some areas. Guildhest? Instanced Behest..you get the idea.

They reprovisioned some content but it's content that existed in 1.x. You can't start calling facts irrelevant just because it counters the argument you're making :\

[Arcari]

So let them! Why shouldn't they be able to do that if they really want to? Putting a cap on things isn't going to help; all it does is make me want to get my points for the week and then play something else until reset. And I'm not even someone that has time to play more than a few hours a day.

Ok, I'm going to put this out here.

Why in the world is it viewed as a bad thing that "you want to play something else once you've hit your cap?" Is there an unwritten rule that states that MMORPGs must entertain you 24/7? What happened to everything in moderation? Why do people want to turn these kinds of games into a second job? Do they realize how unhealthy that type of lifestyle is?

I am absolutely disgusted by the "GOTTA HAVE IT NOW NOW NOW IT'S ALL ABOUT ME ME ME" attitudes that dominate these games these days. Absolutely shameful.

[Wolf_Gang]

Nothing wrong with the cap.

What I don't like is the lockout. It should be based on class not character.

Not only does this add replay value to instances, but makes everyone learn additional classes. Just overall gives you more stuff to do.

[Delsus]

All this whining over Myth gear when all you have to do is get your hiney in Coil and get your gear from drops.

"But I shouldn't have to raid to get gear!!!11! because it's not what I enjoy and should get top tier gear by running an easy instance til my eyes bleed Demon Wall residue."

Tough, you get what you get then when you earn the tomes.

I'll go out on a limb and claim that there are people out there now gearing up their alt classes with Coil gear without having to wait on Myth resets. The gear is there, go get it.

But But Coil is too hard, I want to burn the really easy dungeons super over geared to make them even easier, WHY IS THERE NO CONTENT???

I would honestly love to see some people who post on here playing old school (75 cap) FFXI, one year+ of grinding to obtain one piece of gear, yep it happened

[Starlord]

This isn't the start of XIV, so my point still stands.

That's your opinion. However, to others including myself feel this game is new ( That's my opinion). ( Arguing about this won't chance either persons thoughts). They had to "REMAKE" this whole game. Some things just couldn't make it in the game before launch day.

Remake means in this situation, turning something that was not so good and try to make it better. They redid practically the whole game ( using the same resources sure). To me it just feels new.

PS: When something drastically changes (for better or worse), even when it's old, kinda makes it new. Another words "Changing the formula".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0cATOGXehc

HAHA!!!! So funny yet so true on these forums! HAHA!!! Capt. Hook is even laughing in that scene XD!

[Wobi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0cATOGXehc

I love you so much for this. 16 seconds to aptly sum up half the kids on these boards.

[sasakusaku]

But But Coil is too hard, I want to burn the really easy dungeons super over geared to make them even easier, WHY IS THERE NO CONTENT???

I would honestly love to see some people who post on here playing old school (75 cap) FFXI, one year+ of grinding to obtain one piece of gear, yep it happened

And the previous FF was a collosal stellar hit that did not require a total rewrite in order to untarnish the franchise, right? But by all means, keep saying stuff like this until it's just you and a few people left. Shall I start naming all the other failed MMOs that had devs/fans making the same excuses over and over? I can, the list is quite lengthy though!

Here's the thing, many people have made some rather constructive/well thought out posts yet the white knights ride in on their high horses flaming away. Horray?