Bard Nerfs Offically Confirmed

[Garnatian]

We lose 20% of our power while a song is on. Meaning our DPS drops LOWER than the other classes in most endgame content.

You do realise that's why EVERY raid group takes at least 1 BRD right, for your songs? So that's not a negative point at all.

Main problem is, that unlike the other Ranged classes who can avoid a lot of mechanics as is simply due to the fact they are ranged are penalised when moving. BRDs have no penalty for moving, meaning they can avoid the majority of mechanics with ease and keep 100% uptime on their DPS.

[Alcide]

You do realise that's why EVERY raid group takes at least 1 BRD right, for your songs? So that's not a negative point at all.

Main problem is, that unlike the other Ranged classes who can avoid a lot of mechanics as is simply due to the fact they are ranged are penalised when moving. BRDs have no penalty for moving, meaning they can avoid the majority of mechanics with ease and keep 100% uptime on their DPS.

And still those other ranged classes are parsing far more than bard even when they have to move.

Seriously, show me one single Coil fight where bard is top dps and i'll be fine with whatever nerf is coming

[Klutz64]

"Coil, coil, coil, coil..."

That is one dungeon. By using that as an example you're not saying that Bards don't need to be nerfed, but rather that Bard endgame equipment needs to be buffed, which sounds like the case.

[Garnatian]

And still those other ranged classes are parsing far more than bard even when they have to move.

Seriously, show me one single Coil fight where bard is top dps and i'll be fine with whatever nerf is coming

BRDs aren't a DPS class. They shouldn't be anywhere near anyone else in terms of DPS. Their main use is their songs. The fact that they can put out reasonable DPS with 100% uptime with absolute mechanic avoidance is INSANE.

[Garnatian]

Bards, nerfs and stuff.

[Leonas]

Do people seriously think BRD is not OP as it stands? A class that can avoid the majority of mechanics without a single bit of loss in DPS?

See thats the kicker. Alot of people here are defending BRD as the worst DD class based on spreadsheet dps from stand still fights or even wooden dummies. Sure, MNKs will get some pretty nice damage when they're not running everywhere and avoiding as much as possible. But a majority of fights are based around mobility atm, so in practical damage output BRD is really up there.

[Farrell]

See thats the kicker. Alot of people here are defending BRD as the worst DD class based on spreadsheet dps from stand still fights or even wooden dummies. Sure, MNKs will get some pretty nice damage when they're not running everywhere and avoiding as much as possible. But a majority of fights are based around mobility atm, so in practical damage output BRD is really up there.

Majority of fights based around movement? I just did turn one and turn two of coil. Dps hardly moves either one of those boss fights. Titan, sure everyone is moving like crazy and there is a real difference in that fight, but not many fights are like Titan in the entire game. Mages wish they didn't have to channel, and melee hates the world and all living creatures pretty much. That is what these threads tell me. I can't wait for melee to get on to the next set of complaints for this game.

[Lecreuset]

Again with the cast times.. this is Hunters from WoW all over again lol

[Leon_Stormrage]

Again with the cast times.. this is Hunters from WoW all over again lol

BTW I played as sacer in WoW =P

[Kakaarato]

Perhaps they need to change the game mechanic of running and dodging almost the entire battle so that melee DPS can actually do damage without having to constantly getting interrupted.... It's a rather cheap mechanic that does need to be adjusted, and not the bard or the drg or monk class itself...

Finally! Someone gets it. Other classes or brd are not the problem Its this running around and dodging then having to restack debuffs or put buffs you need to do damage. Leave everything. Give monks 30 sec on greased lightning and call it a day. Your welcome SE.