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    Hanabira Asashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lirion12 View Post
    Personally, I think the biggest thing a WAR forgets about next to Holmgang is Bloodbath/Berserk Combo. Same cool down. Bloodbath lasts 10 seconds longer. One Action Combo will take care of the 10 seconds in order to negate a bad timing on berserk pacification.
    I actually feel bad about myself that i havent been doing this. Ive been using berserk with internal release for large spike damage/hate.. and then using bloodbath along with vengance and forsight when holding a pack of mobs. even still.. holmgang is an awful skill, i used it once when a healer pulled hate.. it bound me in place leaving the mob free too eat whoever he wanted. I dont lose hate on bosses, and dont need it for adds, so i cant find its purpose. garuda's red add is a great idea though
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    Shaenrael Calgarawyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanabira View Post
    I actually feel bad about myself that i havent been doing this. Ive been using berserk with internal release for large spike damage/hate.. and then using bloodbath along with vengance and forsight when holding a pack of mobs. even still..
    You shouldn't be worrying about using bloodbath with Berserk. If you do you cut off 5 seconds of bloodbath time, so even though they have the same cooldown they should not be used at the same time. If you really want to you would use berserk after 10 seconds of bloodbath being up, but that is more attention than it's worth. And honestly bloodbath is such a minimal contribution over time that "saving" it for anything makes it a completely ineffective cooldown. It should be used on cooldown every opportunity to generate the 7-10 hp/s it averages out to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachiko View Post
    You shouldn't be worrying about using bloodbath with Berserk. If you do you cut off 5 seconds of bloodbath time, so even though they have the same cooldown they should not be used at the same time. If you really want to you would use berserk after 10 seconds of bloodbath being up, but that is more attention than it's worth. And honestly bloodbath is such a minimal contribution over time that "saving" it for anything makes it a completely ineffective cooldown. It should be used on cooldown every opportunity to generate the 7-10 hp/s it averages out to.
    If it needs to be fulltimed to even be marginally useful, then it is a garbage skill and it should feel bad as well as holmgang, we have 2 either useless or insanely situational skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanabira View Post
    If it needs to be fulltimed to even be marginally useful, then it is a garbage skill and it should feel bad as well as holmgang, we have 2 either useless or insanely situational skills.
    It's not useless it's just not very good. It's effectively about ~1000 healing every 90 seconds, which is actually much more in magnitude than say, the cross class Second Wind, but it's spread out over 30 seconds so it can't really be used reactively.

    It's weak but not 100% useless like Holmgang is on fights that matter.
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