Add Randomized Roaming Boss Packs and Quests for a More Dynamic Erozea

[CrstyCaptin]

Actually this kinda come up in my ls the other day. We were talking about fighting a HUGE marmot as something kind of silly/different. Then I thought "Why not?". This would be almost a total rip off D2, but have a hidden marmot counter for each server. As you kill marmots the counter goes up and once it hits a certain number(or the more you kill after a certain number, an increased chance) you have this huge marmot spawn randomly in the areas around Grid, Uldah, or LL. Make it like a king marmot that's pissed off you've killed all the little ones. Personally I think this would be fun. You'd probably have a bunch of noobs yellin when it popped(why not have it pop in lowbie areas? lol) making it even more comical. You could even go as far as to have it pop after the death of a marmot in the same spot. This would lead to people xping for their first time, killing a rank 1 mob, and having a rank 50+ mob pop killing them. Kinda like my first time playing fallout 3, getting out of vault for the first time and running into a deathclaw.

[Lienn]

I suggested a similar idea at newspaper/tribune topic...i think its a valid idea for this topic aswell. Roaming monsters that can change areas completely in a weekly basis.

[Teknoman]

Actually this kinda come up in my ls the other day. We were talking about fighting a HUGE marmot as something kind of silly/different. Then I thought "Why not?". This would be almost a total rip off D2, but have a hidden marmot counter for each server. As you kill marmots the counter goes up and once it hits a certain number(or the more you kill after a certain number, an increased chance) you have this huge marmot spawn randomly in the areas around Grid, Uldah, or LL. Make it like a king marmot that's pissed off you've killed all the little ones. Personally I think this would be fun. You'd probably have a bunch of noobs yellin when it popped(why not have it pop in lowbie areas? lol) making it even more comical. You could even go as far as to have it pop after the death of a marmot in the same spot. This would lead to people xping for their first time, killing a rank 1 mob, and having a rank 50+ mob pop killing them. Kinda like my first time playing fallout 3, getting out of vault for the first time and running into a deathclaw.

Might work for Dodos (dodo with a mohawk?) since they seem to be a XIV mascot of sorts, like how Mandragoras and goblins were for XI.

[kukurumei]

More trouble then it's worth. Maybe when they have the laundry list done, and go back. "Randomizing" is never randomized.

Randomized = buggy and no fun because it's unfair
loaded randomize = possible if done right

It takes a lot of effort and QA to do the latter.

[Rentahamster]

Actually this kinda come up in my ls the other day. We were talking about fighting a HUGE marmot as something kind of silly/different. Then I thought "Why not?". This would be almost a total rip off D2, but have a hidden marmot counter for each server. As you kill marmots the counter goes up and once it hits a certain number(or the more you kill after a certain number, an increased chance) you have this huge marmot spawn randomly in the areas around Grid, Uldah, or LL. Make it like a king marmot that's pissed off you've killed all the little ones. Personally I think this would be fun. You'd probably have a bunch of noobs yellin when it popped(why not have it pop in lowbie areas? lol) making it even more comical. You could even go as far as to have it pop after the death of a marmot in the same spot. This would lead to people xping for their first time, killing a rank 1 mob, and having a rank 50+ mob pop killing them. Kinda like my first time playing fallout 3, getting out of vault for the first time and running into a deathclaw.

Yeah, some sort of counter system might work. Basically, I'm envisioning the experience to go something like this:

A party enters some area and starts killing the mobs there for SP, or for item drops. Since killing the same things over and over can be a little boring, once in a while, a boss pack spawns that is harder to kill but has greater rewards. This would break up the tedium and introduce some dynamic content into a player's routine.

[kukurumei]

Yeah, some sort of counter system might work. Basically, I'm envisioning the experience to go something like this:

A party enters some area and starts killing the mobs there for SP, or for item drops. Since killing the same things over and over can be a little boring, once in a while, a boss pack spawns that is harder to kill but has greater rewards. This would break up the tedium and introduce some dynamic content into a player's routine.

AKA beastmen. Which totally suck because we found that players didn't like it and actually avoided it. It's all fun and games, as long as no one loses as they say.

I don't want to be randomly "dead" or wasting valuable time going along my route because of some code in the game to make it more "fun".

That's what started the whole sneak/invisible craze as well as camps in FF11. People didn't want to deal with stupid over powered pests...like Guivre. Though it was fun if a party got snacked on by her once in a blue moon...rarely.

[Rentahamster]

AKA beastmen. Which totally suck because we found that players didn't like it and actually avoided it. It's all fun and games, as long as no one loses as they say.

Huh? Beastmen don't work that way.

I don't want to be randomly "dead" or wasting valuable time going along my route because of some code in the game to make it more "fun".

That's what started the whole sneak/invisible craze as well as camps in FF11. People didn't want to deal with stupid over powered pests...like Guivre. Though it was fun if a party got snacked on by her once in a blue moon...rarely.

The system I described above in no way fosters the scenario you just wrote about.

[Teknoman]

I wouldnt mind if you ran into a same rank beastman ambush solo or in a party every once in a while on the field. Or a timed spawn mini-boss in a dungeon, unique to that dungeon. A guardian of sorts.

Either way, if I get k.o.'d, it just makes me want to get back up and try harder the next time, especially if there isnt some huge substantial devastating loss.

[kukurumei]

The system I described above in no way fosters the scenario you just wrote about.

All you're doing is margarine instead of butter. The concept have been done, redone, and redone ad inf, and every time people are like the idea hate the result.

Most people skydive for a thrill but not for a living. We like our boring standard predictable lifestyle, real or MMO. When we want some "excitement" we specifically go to it, not it to us. That's how the invention of instances or dungeons got designed.

Sure we have spice it up here and there, but any boldness is quickly hated.

[Rentahamster]

All you're doing is margarine instead of butter. The concept have been done, redone, and redone ad inf, and every time people are like the idea hate the result.

Worked out well for Diablo.

But anyway, seeing as Diablo's slightly different in scope than FF14, just exactly how will randomized bosses and quests detract from FF14 as it currently is now?