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  1. #1041
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    Altena Trife
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiko769 View Post
    Stuff about Titan etc etc
    The point people have been trying to make for 90+ pages is:

    This thread is not just about Titan. It is the overall latency issues throughout the whole game. Delayed actions, delayed positional checks, spell interrupts / not interrupting when moving etc...

    Too many people seem to think the issue starts and finishes with Titan. I can tell you that there are far more scary AoE's in Coil (especially turn 2) where this is a big issue. That is beside the point - the point is the overall latency/poor netcode between server>client.

    This will become especially evident once PvP hits.. I truly can't wait to see how terribad it is when it comes in patch 2.1 if this remains unresolved.
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  2. #1042
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    Marisa Kirisame
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    Good luck dodging this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHo3AewOwog

    In before you should never die to things you can predict... (it takes away 100% of your health).
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    Last edited by HoroBoro; 10-16-2013 at 01:36 PM.

  3. #1043
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    Ananya Castelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    Snippet of reply cause of dang char limit
    Spells can be cast while moving if you trick the timer it isn't latency I call it skill in knowing your class always comes in handy on my SCH for dodging while still popping a succor or cure lol. As for AoEs pretty sure that's not latency either as I previously stated AoEs have timers IE you have X amount of time to dodge this before it lands and it wouldn't make sense for them not to so let's use Titans plume as an example again. Assuming no lag on your end it's what a 3-4 second timer? if you dodge but miss that timer it still hits even if your outside it that's not latency it's just missing the timer for the AoE it makes 100% perfect sense to me dunno why everyone else makes it complicated lol
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  4. #1044
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    Rie Akasuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiko769 View Post
    Spells can be cast while moving if you trick the timer it isn't latency I call it skill in knowing your class always comes in handy on my SCH for dodging while still popping a succor or cure lol. As for AoEs pretty sure that's not latency either as I previously stated AoEs have timers IE you have X amount of time to dodge this before it lands and it wouldn't make sense for them not to so let's use Titans plume as an example again. Assuming no lag on your end it's what a 3-4 second timer? if you dodge but miss that timer it still hits even if your outside it that's not latency it's just missing the timer for the AoE it makes 100% perfect sense to me dunno why everyone else makes it complicated lol
    By Timer you mean the cast bar of the skill then?
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  5. #1045
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    Danorille Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiko769 View Post
    Spells can be cast while moving if you trick the timer it isn't latency
    that's the issue right there, the server still think you are standing still while you already moved on your screen, your position only gets update later. If so you happen to be within landslide's range you would have been knocked over due to positional not being updated.

    it doesn't matter if you have a 3 or 4 second AOE window, if what's showing on screen isn't reliable/accurate you'll always get hit.
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  6. #1046
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saerie View Post
    By Timer you mean the cast bar of the skill then?
    Probably I'm a healer so usually not locked on the boss to see exactly what's going on when it's casting skills. But if you want to put it that way than yes if the skill has a casting bar and yes I'm aware not all of them show one than if you miss that bar the aoe hits you out of it or not. Like I said to me it makes sense I mean if they were instant you obviously wouldn't be able to dodge and if you miss the cast bar to me that means you can't expect it to still miss so seems like working as intended to me though no one else seems to agree
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  7. #1047
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano View Post
    that's the issue right there, the server still think you are standing still while you already moved on your screen, your position only gets update later. If so you happen to be within landslide's range you would have been knocked over due to positional not being updated.

    it doesn't matter if you have a 3 or 4 second AOE window, if what's showing on screen isn't reliable/accurate you'll always get hit.
    I've mobile healed out of AoEs quite a lot and still missed em so it did update the position and if the timer was unreliable and inaccurate you'd NEVER dodge an AoE
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  8. #1048
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    Daily bump from me.
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  9. #1049
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    Rie Akasuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiko769 View Post
    Probably I'm a healer so usually not locked on the boss to see exactly what's going on when it's casting skills. But if you want to put it that way than yes if the skill has a casting bar and yes I'm aware not all of them show one than if you miss that bar the aoe hits you out of it or not. Like I said to me it makes sense I mean if they were instant you obviously wouldn't be able to dodge and if you miss the cast bar to me that means you can't expect it to still miss so seems like working as intended to me though no one else seems to agree
    Here's two images of dodging something before the cast bar finishes:



    Got hit both times. I'm 100% sure the blue line is the edge of the aoe Since I already tested it while building LB on Titan Hardmode before, Stood at the line and I didn't get hit :/
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  10. #1050
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saerie View Post
    Here's two images of dodging something before the cast bar finishes:



    Got hit both times. I'm 100% sure the blue line is the edge of the aoe Since I already tested it while building LB on Titan Hardmode before, Stood at the line and I didn't get hit :/
    Even if it's just for testing purposes that's cutting the timer WAY to close I would still expect to be hit by that especially since LS should be easiest to dodge if you move as soon as it starts it has like the longest cast of all of titans skills but that just my opinion apparently my views on the game are kinda far from the majorities lol
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