DD Nerfed

[Ralemont]

and you griefed by killing the lambs so I already can tell that your eyes may have been playing tricks on you so you can "see what you want to see" regarding the fate.

That completing the objective is considered "griefing" illustrates why this change is welcome.

And to those saying the grind was slow enough already even with DD: are you serious? Because you can't be.

[Appleh4x]

That completing the objective is considered "griefing" illustrates why this change is welcome.

And to those saying the grind was slow enough already even with DD: are you serious? Because you can't be.

It is griefing when it is apparently obvious as to what you should be doing as per all the other people at the fate. I've never seen anyone cussed out for mistakenly killing a lamb, the few times I have been there while lambs were attacked people just shouted "please don't kill lambs, farm trash for xp," or rarely it was just someone griefing to get a rise. If someone is griefing, I, and many others just blist them and move on.

[Ralemont]

It is griefing when it is apparently obvious as to what you should be doing as per all the other people at the fate. I've never seen anyone cussed out for mistakenly killing a lamb

That the obvious thing to do is the opposite of what the game tells you to do illustrates why this change is welcome.

We aren't disagreeing, but you're pointing out why people should know better, and I'm pointing out why it's ridiculous to begin with.

Actually, there is one thing with which I disagree. PLENTY of people get cussed out, named-and-shamed for killing lambs because it's their first time in the zone and they don't know how the community pseudo-exploits it to get EXP. If they have a chat tab like I do to filter out any chat except party, LS, and FC, then they may not even be aware of the shouts telling them to stop. Then again, Ultros is known for shout drama apparently.

Edit: To Shiyo: I agree they need to make dungeons the best way to gain EXP, preferably through a combination of buffing dungeons some and nerfing fates some. When they designed the game I'm sure they set the difficulty of FATEs with WAY less people playing in mind (imagine if FATEs only attracted 1/2 the current amount of players. The EXP wouldn't be quite so ridiculous).

That being said, it really has nothing to do with this nerf except indirectly, in a they-should-have-spent-their-time-on-this-hotfix kind of way.

[Appleh4x]

That the obvious thing to do is the opposite of what the game tells you to do illustrates why this change is welcome...
Actually, there is one thing with which I disagree. PLENTY of people get cussed out, named-and-shamed for killing lambs because it's their first time in the zone and they don't know how the community pseudo-exploits it to get EXP. If they have a chat tab like I do to filter out any chat except party, LS, and FC, then they may not even be aware of the shouts telling them to stop.

Filtering out shouts is ridiculously foolish, people should learn to blist faster if they have RMT woes. Bad behavior is bad behavior, griefing a fate by ending it early is the same as being the guy cussing someone out for an honest mistake and I would blist them both, as any mature person would. Avoiding conflict in game will take people far

[Ralemont]

Filtering out shouts is ridiculously foolish, people should learn to blist faster if they have RMT woes.

You are really overestimating the value of shout chat. 95% of shout chat is fate parties LFM or faters LFG. The other 4.95% is inane babble. The .05% is instructions on how to maximize Fate-chain exp. RMT don't advertise outside of the cities on Ultros at least.

Bad behavior is bad behavior, griefing a fate by ending it early is the same as being the guy cussing someone out for an honest mistake and I would blist them both, as any mature person would. Avoiding conflict in game will take people far

No, that isn't the same, unless you are talking about someone who knows what to do in DD, is already 50, and just does it to troll people FATEing. Yeah that's immature.

Edit to Mala: Yeah maybe Ultros is just extra toxic for some reason (I hesitate to blame the presence of large forum-based FC like GAF and ZAM). Allegedly there is a FC infamous for having members hang around just to troll DD.