[Dev1001] Strategy or Exploit

[VydarrTyr]

And why can't the local leves be the same way then?

Local leves are the same way. Lots of players decide not to run for 45 minutes to 3 different camps -- or use 16 anima -- to turn their leves in to the appropriate NPC. So they just make all the requested goods to get all the SP possible, and then don't turn them in. When the leves reset, they pick up an entirely new set of local leves without completing their old ones. Again, they don't get the gil or guild points, but they get the SP.

Maybe that's not "heroic" crafting, but probably the enduring lesson of MMOs is that players will do anything to get themselves the most XP in the least amount of time possible.

Of course, Yoshi-P's latest letter discusses "balancing" guild leve rewards. So it's possible that the whole "failing leves" issue will be resolved by making all leves give the same amount of SP. We'll have to wait and see what they decide, though.

[Mortikhan]

Local leves are the same way.

1) I am not sure about this...I had a Bluefog leve I had to turn in a long while back but I could not reach there. I do not recall being able to overwrite it with another leve. Like I said though...I am not sure about that. You could however complete up to 1 item short of the goal and fail the rest of the synths purposely making the leve vanish. However, this would not be the same as autofailing a battle leve as you would not automatically receive the same leve again and would be required to choose a leve at the leve counter. It might be the very same leve but that leve would be subject to the same random possibility of popping up and not be guaranteed. With the battle leve it would simply lose the red check and be doable again.

2) I think he was referring more to the fact that local leves can not be party stacked or GAed. Gathering leves can only be GAed. 5-6k SP from a very difficult synth for crafting or a gathering leve is a bit different than the mass amounts of SP gained by leve linking and GAing battle leves. Even at levels 40-50 gaining a level with a single 8 optimal battle leve set is an easy task with this method. With crafting you would be lucky to find 8 leves of the same class at optimal levels and they would come nowhere near leveling you in a single set at 40-50. With gathering leves you can only obtain 6 leves maximum at optimal level for a single class.

I understand the concept of the grind being a hassle, but I am not sure that this method of leveling should be encouraged.

[VydarrTyr]

1) I am not sure about this...I had a Bluefog leve I had to turn in a long while back but I could not reach there. I do not recall being able to overwrite it with another leve.

This was true at launch, but it was changed several months ago. Now, you can complete all the synth attempts, not turn in the leve, and just go back to the leve counter and get new leves to overwrite it.

However, this would not be the same as autofailing a battle leve as you would not automatically receive the same leve again and would be required to choose a leve at the leve counter.

This is true. In fact, if you fail to turn in a local leve, you will definitely not be offered the same leve again until after the next reset. So it is different in that way.

I think he was referring more to the fact that local leves can not be party stacked or GAed. Gathering leves can only be GAed.

This is true. But because there's no party crafting currently in the game, there's no way to offer party-stacking or GA for crafting.