And so the decline begins...

[makii]

Minimal? Haaaaaaa.

It would've been a month of login errors if this game launched with PVP and the mmo PVP guilds bought it.

PvP players don't play FF, they play games dedicated to it or pure PvP games. If you're playing FF for PvP you're doing it wrong.

[Millerna]

PvP players don't play FF, they play games dedicated to it or pure PvP games. If you're playing FF for PvP you're doing it wrong.

You do know YoshiP is a huge PvP fan and has played Dark Age of Camelot quite extensively right? The announced "Frontlines" PvP system is quite likely going to be inspired by DAoC's Realm vs Realm.

I'm no fan of balancing PvP for small battles like 4vs4 or something, but large scale RvR like in DAoC is a lot of fun when executed well.

[makii]

You do know YoshiP is a huge PvP fan and has played Dark Age of Camelot quite extensively right? The announced "Frontlines" PvP system is quite likely going to be inspired by DAoC's Realm vs Realm.

I'm no fan of balancing PvP for small battles like 4vs4 or something, but large scale RvR like in DAoC is a lot of fun when executed well.

YoshiP being a PvP fan doesn't make FF into a PvP focused game. PvPers will always be a minority here.

[Millerna]

YoshiP being a PvP fan doesn't make FF into a PvP focused game. PvPers will always be a minority here.

It won't be PvP focussed no, but there will be PvP, and more than likely more than just arena style PvP. It shouldn't affect PvE balance much, if at all, considering there was talk about an additional skill-set for PvP and there will be PvP specific gear/stats. Judging by the fact that they've already designed quite a good number of different PvP armours, I do believe PvP will actually become a sizeable part of the game.

[Meimei]

PvP players don't play FF, they play games dedicated to it or pure PvP games. If you're playing FF for PvP you're doing it wrong.

This isn't FF. It's WoW with Final Fantasy Glossing. Try playin' it and you might understand.

YoshiP being a PvP fan doesn't make FF into a PvP focused game. PvPers will always be a minority here.

YoshiP being a WoW fan doesn't make this game into a WoW clone either--oh wait.

Your attempts at downplaying PvP before its even released amuse me greatly. Guessing you played FFXI and not much else. PVP did die out completely in XI due to dev lethargy and apathy, it's true. In other mmos though? It's pretty undeniably huge.

PVE gets old fast. Same fights, same strategies, same patterns. Typical gear race. With PVP something is always different and unpredictable. And it'll always have quite a cult following regardless of how much you avert your eyes.

Retarded post limit is retarded.

[sasakusaku]

PvP players don't play FF, they play games dedicated to it or pure PvP games. If you're playing FF for PvP you're doing it wrong.

I am not sure if trolling.

Almost 99.99% of the MMOs ever made has had PvP in some shape or form.

Is this your FIRST MMO?

[Aleksandr]

PvP players don't play FF, they play games dedicated to it or pure PvP games. If you're playing FF for PvP you're doing it wrong.

Games like Fantasy Earth Zero which had 1.2 million subs (not in the US) which was made by Square-Enix. On the U.S side we pleaded for summoner to be added in. Us dirty PvP people who played a PVP game developed by Square-Enix.

[Sayura_]

I think you're the confused one buddy.

I think you're confused if you think all mmo pvp gamers would not play this game. A lot of guilds haven't bought it because it didn't launch with pvp.

Sorry 100% of the coders aren't working on making a new PVE dungeon for you.

[Sayura_]

Complaining about lack of PvP in FF is like complaining about no PvE in Counter-strike.

You're the one complaining that they're wasting their resources on a "minority".

I'm quite happy they're adding PvP and not complaining.

[Felis]

She's right.
The games focal point will and always will be PvE.
Look at the PvP from the Legacy players videos.
It's so bad lmao.

You mean that PvP in the beta with no PvP skills, only to collect some datas about distance attacks and basics?

This entire game reeks of pathetic casual-caused balancing already. I know you already stand corrected on your original post, but for you to have gone off on a tangent like this is sad.

Remember when BLM's actually cast black magic and not just fire?

1.0 remembers.

In 1.0 it was lightning (single target) and fire (AoE)

The golden age of THM was before the jobs came. He was the best healer (thanks to cone AoE heal), a good damage dealer and was able to tank Dodore.


@OP: why making this thread? We already know that PvP is coming since 2011. And arena would not be the only PvP event. There is also coming a whole PvP zone, called Frontiers.
Here is the conception art about Frontiers from 2011: