And so the decline begins...

[Sayura_]

They will still be wasting time on PvP when they could spend it fixing the PvE issues.
Waste of resources to cater to a minimal amount of people.

Minimal? Haaaaaaa.

It would've been a month of login errors if this game launched with PVP and the mmo PVP guilds bought it.

[makii]

Minimal? Haaaaaaa.

It would've been a month of login errors if this game launched with PVP and the mmo PVP guilds bought it.

PvP players don't play FF, they play games dedicated to it or pure PvP games. If you're playing FF for PvP you're doing it wrong.

[Reiterpallasch]

Guys I heard someone say "pvp" once somewhere. Is this where I come to complain for little to no reason about things I don't know about?

[Millerna]

PvP players don't play FF, they play games dedicated to it or pure PvP games. If you're playing FF for PvP you're doing it wrong.

You do know YoshiP is a huge PvP fan and has played Dark Age of Camelot quite extensively right? The announced "Frontlines" PvP system is quite likely going to be inspired by DAoC's Realm vs Realm.

I'm no fan of balancing PvP for small battles like 4vs4 or something, but large scale RvR like in DAoC is a lot of fun when executed well.

[Sayura_]

I think you're the confused one buddy.

I think you're confused if you think all mmo pvp gamers would not play this game. A lot of guilds haven't bought it because it didn't launch with pvp.

Sorry 100% of the coders aren't working on making a new PVE dungeon for you.

[makii]

You do know YoshiP is a huge PvP fan and has played Dark Age of Camelot quite extensively right? The announced "Frontlines" PvP system is quite likely going to be inspired by DAoC's Realm vs Realm.

I'm no fan of balancing PvP for small battles like 4vs4 or something, but large scale RvR like in DAoC is a lot of fun when executed well.

YoshiP being a PvP fan doesn't make FF into a PvP focused game. PvPers will always be a minority here.

[Sayura_]

Complaining about lack of PvP in FF is like complaining about no PvE in Counter-strike.

You're the one complaining that they're wasting their resources on a "minority".

I'm quite happy they're adding PvP and not complaining.

[sasakusaku]

PvP players don't play FF, they play games dedicated to it or pure PvP games. If you're playing FF for PvP you're doing it wrong.

I am not sure if trolling.

Almost 99.99% of the MMOs ever made has had PvP in some shape or form.

Is this your FIRST MMO?

[Aleksandr]

PvP players don't play FF, they play games dedicated to it or pure PvP games. If you're playing FF for PvP you're doing it wrong.

Games like Fantasy Earth Zero which had 1.2 million subs (not in the US) which was made by Square-Enix. On the U.S side we pleaded for summoner to be added in. Us dirty PvP people who played a PVP game developed by Square-Enix.

[SirSchmoopyofAwesometon]

The game is PvE. We know this. You know this, I know this, the guy who stand on his front lawn in his underwear drinking orange juice singing songs from Elvis knows this... We got it.

PvP is just something to do on the side. Why can't we all just have a little more fun? Eh? Eh? Why? what do you got against fun?