And so the decline begins...

[Amyas]

That would be kinda stupid. That would make leveling them and memorizing what works the whole way to 50 pointless.

They've already stated that pvp will have separate skills and gear.

[Millerna]

YoshiP being a PvP fan doesn't make FF into a PvP focused game. PvPers will always be a minority here.

It won't be PvP focussed no, but there will be PvP, and more than likely more than just arena style PvP. It shouldn't affect PvE balance much, if at all, considering there was talk about an additional skill-set for PvP and there will be PvP specific gear/stats. Judging by the fact that they've already designed quite a good number of different PvP armours, I do believe PvP will actually become a sizeable part of the game.

[darkm0d]

This entire game reeks of pathetic casual-caused balancing already. I know you already stand corrected on your original post, but for you to have gone off on a tangent like this is sad.

Remember when BLM's actually cast black magic and not just fire?

1.0 remembers.

[Azazela]

No one plays FFXIV for PVP. The mechanics in this game are terrible for PVP, it's just a token feature. No PVPers would play FF, and PVP is something the FF fanbase is indifferent to.

[OmegaBlack]

We really cant say pvp will be good or bad ATM untill we try it.,

I for one cant wait for pvp ppl are more challenging then pvp.

Cap mythology and pvp is going to be what i plan on doing

[NovaLevossida]

It's bad enough we have people whining because x class does more or is better at (insert activity) than y even in PvE. Which btw is the most ignorant thing I have ever seen. I mean Player Versus Environment means thank you each and every class for your involvement. The competition is against ..hold it..the Environment!

"Hey guys, I'm going to call people ignorant for wanting class balancing while being ignorant of the actual class balance issues because I haven't hit 50 where those balance issues start to show up."

[Meimei]

PvP players don't play FF, they play games dedicated to it or pure PvP games. If you're playing FF for PvP you're doing it wrong.

This isn't FF. It's WoW with Final Fantasy Glossing. Try playin' it and you might understand.

YoshiP being a PvP fan doesn't make FF into a PvP focused game. PvPers will always be a minority here.

YoshiP being a WoW fan doesn't make this game into a WoW clone either--oh wait.

Your attempts at downplaying PvP before its even released amuse me greatly. Guessing you played FFXI and not much else. PVP did die out completely in XI due to dev lethargy and apathy, it's true. In other mmos though? It's pretty undeniably huge.

PVE gets old fast. Same fights, same strategies, same patterns. Typical gear race. With PVP something is always different and unpredictable. And it'll always have quite a cult following regardless of how much you avert your eyes.

Retarded post limit is retarded.

[Azazela]

PVP will be so insignificant in the grand scheme of things in this game. Saying it will affect PVE is laughable, when it's such an after thought. They even stated the abilities will work differently in PVP and PVE.

[Felis]

She's right.
The games focal point will and always will be PvE.
Look at the PvP from the Legacy players videos.
It's so bad lmao.

You mean that PvP in the beta with no PvP skills, only to collect some datas about distance attacks and basics?

This entire game reeks of pathetic casual-caused balancing already. I know you already stand corrected on your original post, but for you to have gone off on a tangent like this is sad.

Remember when BLM's actually cast black magic and not just fire?

1.0 remembers.

In 1.0 it was lightning (single target) and fire (AoE)

The golden age of THM was before the jobs came. He was the best healer (thanks to cone AoE heal), a good damage dealer and was able to tank Dodore.


@OP: why making this thread? We already know that PvP is coming since 2011. And arena would not be the only PvP event. There is also coming a whole PvP zone, called Frontiers.
Here is the conception art about Frontiers from 2011:

[Swishytail]

I like both PvP and PvE, so I'm personally glad they are having both.
I just wanna have fun and enjoy all aspects of the game.

Maybe I'm on a very small boat with a few others on this one. x.x