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    Kychai Du'leej
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    And so the decline begins...

    PvP!! Heck yea!!........ummm no. This begins the death toll of the PvE game. The "balancing" act begins. It's bad enough we have people whining because x class does more or is better at (insert activity) than y even in PvE. Which btw is the most ignorant thing I have ever seen. I mean Player Versus Environment means thank you each and every class for your involvement. The competition is against ..hold it..the Environment! If I want to be the same as x then I will play x not come in here and whine. But now..well PvP screams balance. And so we begin that endless act. FF series IS PvE. No reason the MMO had to be something different.
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    Tahldon Boyoikoh
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    Are you completely aware of what the PVP system entails? You do know that it's bound to an "Arena"-like area right and that it's not free-roam PVP as in particular other MMOs... right?
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    Well... "Common" sense isn't all that common anymore, now is it?

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    I would argue whats showing this game in a slow decline is the amount of people doing fate grinds at lower levels. Its starting to drop. Noticed it today when leveling another class. Not a good sign.
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    Wait, I don't understand the point of this Thread. There is no actual topic here, just a repeat of the world "balance" a few times. I assume you're talking about Jobs being Balanced for PVP which will ultimately influence PVE? Because if that's the case, then there is no need for this thread to exist. They've already announced that PVP will have its own unique set of abilities which will be balanced differently from PVE. They'll look and act like many of the PVE abilities, but they will have absolutely no roll over into any other content.
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    Ever since I noticed that Archers/Bards have to ability to shoot from a full 360 degrees while moving, I got the opinion that SE has no intention to truly make PvP balanced.

    Who knows though, maybe they will make all balancing issues resolved through PvP only traits.
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    Always remember the Silver Rule:
    "Treat others as they treat you!" ...or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Codek View Post
    Ever since I noticed that Archers/Bards have to ability to shoot from a full 360 degrees while moving, I got the opinion that SE has no intention to truly make PvP balanced.

    Who knows though, maybe they will make all balancing issues resolved through PvP only traits.
    That would be kinda stupid. That would make leveling them and memorizing what works the whole way to 50 pointless.
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    Seigyoku Cypher
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    What balancing act?

    They've stated that PvP will involve a completely separate set of skills for each class. They will be able to rebalance one without affecting the other.
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    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
    My loyalty lies with Gridania, with the Moogles and the tree spirits of old." -The Forky Conjurer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecan View Post
    They've already announced that PVP will have its own unique set of abilities which will be balanced differently from PVE. They'll look and act like many of the PVE abilities, but they will have absolutely no roll over into any other content.
    I stand corrected then. If this is the case I hope the Pvp'ers will have the game they want. And the post had nothing to do with whether PvP was open world but was pointed only at the balancing act. PvE games do not need balance in the classes. I rather see individuality of the classes (i.e unique play styles). PvE is not a class competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unami1 View Post
    PvE is not a class competition.
    The legions of elitists whining for DPS parsers suggest something completely different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahldon View Post
    Are you completely aware of what the PVP system entails? You do know that it's bound to an "Arena"-like area right and that it's not free-roam PVP as in particular other MMOs... right?
    They will still be wasting time on PvP when they could spend it fixing the PvE issues.
    Waste of resources to cater to a minimal amount of people.
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