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  1. #11
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    Ashen Vasture
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    Jenova
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post

    AF2 is more limited due to Myth cap and obtaining the full set takes a bit longer. It made for Casuals because they don't have the time or know enough people yet who are willing to join them for coil whenever they have time.
    No. It's not made for Casuals. It's made for people to round out their gear that's running the end game content.
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  2. #12
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    Edwin Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by twigglypuff View Post
    im completly fine with whatever u wanna call it. I still dont like casuals in welfare epics, simple as that.



    If casuals dont have time to raid, theres no reason why they need ilvl90 gear.

    --I'm entitled to be shiny if i put the time in to raid. Why should a casual be as shiny as me if they know how to zombie mode AK 8 times a week?

    Does it make you feel better that Allagan set has better stats than AF2?

    AF2 bonus stats are decent but they're not Endgame decent like Allagan gear's bonus stats are.
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  3. #13
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    Twigglypuff Reaper
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    Quote Originally Posted by AridElf View Post
    I don't think you understand what welfare means. You could argue that the level 45/50 AF pieces are welfare since they are practically given to you, AF+1 requires enough time to earn 300 myth per week every week to minimise the time spent between pieces.
    boohoo, dedicating some time to run Ak once/twice a day for 30-40 mins a run is such a challange. AF2 may as well be given to you after 1 Ak clear. Cuz thats all it is, an Ak clearing reward.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Does it make you feel better that Allagan set has better stats than AF2?

    AF2 bonus stats are decent but they're not Endgame decent like Allagan gear's bonus stats are.
    I actually never compared allagan stats to AF2. Item level is the same so thats all I'm going by. I guess i'll check it out when I get home.

    --woops, sorry for double post, shouldve edited my above post. My bad.
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  5. #15
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by twigglypuff View Post
    boohoo, dedicating some time to run Ak once/twice a day for 30-40 mins a run is such a challange.
    Yet there are tons of players whom can't finish AK because of their poor skill.
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  6. #16
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    Yame Agi
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by twigglypuff View Post
    boohoo, dedicating some time to run Ak once/twice a day for 30-40 mins a run is such a challange. AF2 may as well be given to you after 1 Ak clear. Cuz thats all it is, an Ak clearing reward.
    maybe they should just reset coil faster then? 1 week reset for 6 chests. my god this is painful.
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  7. #17
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    Phogg Machine
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    If what you do only means something to you in relation to other people not having what you have, you are a sociopath, plain and simple. Especially in a video game.

    Who says a casual can't get that even if it takes them longer and still feel like it was an accomplishment? And because they achieve it, why should that bother you so much? He said "I dont the idea of casuals running around in [my special little gears]". You get it faster because you're so pro or whatever, great job (also nobody cares), they get it eventually at their own pace. When they get it, you get mad, that's at a minimum weird and at a maximum something a sociopath would get angry about.
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  8. #18
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    Resa Nome
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Does it make you feel better that Allagan set has better stats than AF2?

    AF2 bonus stats are decent but they're not Endgame decent like Allagan gear's bonus stats are.
    Uh, no. Especially for Paladin:

    http://xivdb.com/?wardrobe/594/PLD-BiS

    Most job BiS is a good mix of AF2 and Allagan.
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  9. #19
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    Tonup Coheed
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    This is good for people that want to gear multiple jobs. I will want the option to run coil as melee, brd, or whm depending on what my FC may need. Upping the tomes will allow for ppl to gear multiple jobs thereby making them more useful to their FC. Right now working on gearing monk and I look at what it will take to fully gear my whm and brd and shudder.
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  10. #20
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    Swishytail Exaflare
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamers View Post
    maybe they should just reset coil faster then? 1 week reset for 6 chests. my god this is painful.
    Try playing WoW, where you can kill 16 raid bosses every week and get 0 gear for 3 weeks straight.
    Most of the time all you get is some gold.
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