Amdapor Exploit

[Horg]

it's definitely an exploit, there really is no question, because it forces the golems to attack a player who can not be reached and therefore breaks the encounter. If you are part of a party who practices this, SE may ban the entire party, even if the healer is the only one who supports the exploit. It has been explicitly stated by SE that if you complete a boss using an exploit then you will be banned, the correct action would be to immediately use the return function and reset the boss. This of course depends on SE not being wusses and actually enforcing their own rules, so far I would say they have 0 backbone.

[Sinth]

...This of course depends on SE not being wusses and actually enforcing their own rules, so far I would say they have 0 backbone.

You must be new to online SE games. They have banned more players than most games have total in their playerbase. SE does not hesitate and often permabans on first offenses. They aren't going to be spying on your games watching for you to exploit. However, if someone reports you and they can find proof, you're getting the ban hammer for sure.

[Vodomir]

You must be new to online SE games. They have banned more players than most games have total in their playerbase. SE does not hesitate and often permabans on first offenses. They aren't going to be spying on your games watching for you to exploit. However, if someone reports you and they can find proof, you're getting the ban hammer for sure.

Though I still haven't heard of any actions being taken against all of the raids that exploit-killed Twintania.

[Sinth]

Though I still haven't heard of any actions being taken against all of the raids that exploit-killed Twintania.

Was there any proof of an exploit? If there was you can report them. You don't even have to be on the same world as them. Reporting after the fact in regards to someone using an exploit is pretty difficult to prove.

In the AK tree scenario, or any group in which members ask you to use a known exploit, refuse on the grounds that it is an exploit, and if they insist, report them. They will get banned.

[Vodomir]

Was there any proof of an exploit? If there was you can report them. You don't even have to be on the same world as them. Reporting after the fact in regards to someone using an exploit is pretty difficult to prove.

In the AK tree scenario, or any group in which members ask you to use a known exploit, refuse on the grounds that it is an exploit, and if they insist, report them. They will get banned.

Some of the groups in question have openly admitted to exploit-killing Twintania and then reported themselves and the exploit only after making use of the exploit.

[Sinth]

Some of the groups in question have openly admitted to exploit-killing Twintania and then reported themselves and the exploit only after making use of the exploit.

Discovering a boss exploit and reporting it after the fight is a bit different than learning of a known exploit and intentionally using it to your advantage.

[Vodomir]

Discovering a boss exploit and reporting it after the fight is a bit different than learning of a known exploit and intentionally using it to your advantage.

Knowing of SE's comment on the Chimera/Hydra glitch, which clearly stated that killing an immobilized mob is breaking the ToS and that they expect parties to abort the fight once such a situation is encountered and then finding out how to (reproduceably) bring Twintania to complete halt at 80% health and slaying away at the remaining 80% is not exactly like accidently running across this bug while it was too late to realize. Killing a frozen Twintania with still 80% HP left IS a conscious decision and it's a decision to violate the ToS, thus swinging the ban hammer is more than appropriate. Maybe you should inform yourself on the matter a bit better before even trying to defend such behaviour?

[Horg]

Was there any proof of an exploit? If there was you can report them. You don't even have to be on the same world as them. Reporting after the fact in regards to someone using an exploit is pretty difficult to prove.

In the AK tree scenario, or any group in which members ask you to use a known exploit, refuse on the grounds that it is an exploit, and if they insist, report them. They will get banned.

The first FC to use the Twintania exploit admitted it, reported it after the kill and looting, according to the TOS they should have been perma-banned on the spot, SE has yet to actually acknowledge or address the FC in question. SE may have been extremely strict in the past, but they are currently showing that you can get away with breaking the TOS with no repercussions...unless you made too much Gil legitimately, then you'll have all your Gil taken away after a week suspension.