Amdapor Exploit

[xXHalloweenTrixXx]

The tree thing can take just as much time as fighting the boss normally. Calling it a game breaking exploit is a bit extreme. I get sick of watching people trying to jump into the branch for 10 minutes.

Exactly. The time it takes to jump up the tree equates to about the same time it takes to burn down the adds. I mean if you are undergeared for AK this is probably helpful but being geared with adequate weapons, the first boss can be burned down quite easily. I honestly think SE has way more to cater to than a simple "bug" for -one- boss in -one- dungeon.

[Vodomir]

Exactly. The time it takes to jump up the tree equates to about the same time it takes to burn down the adds. I mean if you are undergeared for AK this is probably helpful but being geared with adequate weapons, the first boss can be burned down quite easily. I honestly think SE has way more to cater to than a simple "bug" for -one- boss in -one- dungeon.

While fixing this bug should probably not be assumed to be on their top priority list, this one should be relatively easy to fix by just not allowing the players to jump those trees (just put invisible walls to where players would otherwise jump onto the tree; the invisible wall mechanic is already in the game).

When not fixing this bug, SE could still bring the message across by simply swinging the ban hammer on people who use this exploit. I know that people will hate me for such a demand and say things like "it isn't really faster" or "it's already easy enough without the exploit" - question remains, why do people insist on using the exploit if it wasn't any easier/faster? The answer is that people using this exploit have obviously not been able to complete this encounter the regular way, so yes, using this explit did give them an advantage. And on the other hand I'd have to say that every exploit should be treated equally as otherwise where would you draw the line, which exploit is considered to be "ok" and which ones are considered to be "bad". Therefore a zero tolerance policy is the only way to ensure the ToS can effectively be enforced.

[Vodomir]

The tree thing can take just as much time as fighting the boss normally. Calling it a game breaking exploit is a bit extreme. I get sick of watching people trying to jump into the branch for 10 minutes.

It may not exactly be game breaking, but the fact remains that this is an exploit and should by all means be treated like one. Lets say your healer is a movement gimp and can't actually get out of void zones, then this bug allows a group to still complete this encounter with said healer. Or lets say your DPS is as bad as not being able to take care of the golems in a timely manner, so the group either gets overwhelmed or the DPS just doesn't have any time to DPS the boss inbetween the add phases ... well the exploit helps this case as well, as you don't have to take care of the golems anymore.

[Gemma]

I really don't see the problem I've been in parties where some go in the tree and some stay on the ground and its fine. To call it "Game Breaking" is bit of a stretch. Should it be there? maybe, maybe not, but I've never seen anyone force anyone to use this method. If you want to go for it, if you want to stay on the ground np. Not like AK is hard once you know the patterns.

[Sinth]

bla bla bla. aren't you just the moral authority?

[Vodomir]

bla bla bla. aren't you just the moral authority?

I don't know about your moral standards, but if someone robs a bank, he robs a bank, doesn't matter if all he got was a few cents or if he later on decides to turn himself in to the police (because he realized the whole thing was taped). The same principle applies here, a ToS violation is a ToS violation, don't know why you even try to defend such behaviour. Sitting in the same boat as them?

[Horg]

They didn't use an exploit specific to Twintania, they used a well known exploit which affects a multitude of bosses in order to bug out twintania, one which SE has already pointed out as an exploit and a bannable offense. The fight turned from constant mechanics and frantically fighting to just sitting there smacking the boss for 80% of the fight. They did not accidentally bug Twintania at 5% and not realize it until after; they purposely did it in order to kill the boss, then they realized they would lose all respect from the community and be banned, so tried to cover their butts by reporting it. Other FCs have done the same thing but tried to hide the fact they exploited.

*edit* By the way, that FC has lost all respect, has been banned from their progression thread but, as far as I know, have not even had their achieves or loot stripped...

[Selemar]

Everytime i'm in a group where they tell me to do this.... I go to the support desk tab, report cheating, and fill it out.

[Drex]

Climb the tree is far more harder than the legit way tbh....

[AlternativeOne]

I was in a group where both the brd and whm jumped into the tree. I didnt think nothing of it. Now that you guys are crying about it Im gonna make fuss if I see it again. Things dont become a problem till some one starts crying. Damn all this community does is bitch.