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    Quote Originally Posted by MistressAthena View Post
    It's not the same dev team. The 1.0 Dev team was fired, this dev team only did what 1.0 dev team was going to do through to 1.23. While then creating their new "Realm Remessedup" at the same time.
    It is pretty much the same dev team. They moved people around after Tanaka was replaced by Yoshida, but mostly around the top of the hierarchy. The rest stayed the same, it's just a different direction they are now taking, largely determined by what Yoshida is telling them to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    It is pretty much the same dev team. They moved people around after Tanaka was replaced by Yoshida, but mostly around the top of the hierarchy. The rest stayed the same, it's just a different direction they are now taking, largely determined by what Yoshida is telling them to do.
    I thought it was the whole dev team that got replaced. I see.
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    I can kinda see it in this way... What we have now is exactly that, a tutorial. A sort of pregame to allow both legacy players and new ones to get to about the same point to make up for the fact that the previous incarnation was so bad while not giving those legacy players such a huge advantage.

    Everything after level 50 is essentially where the real game begins... Unfortunately this is also where current content ends. The next few content additions will probably be geared towards raising the level cap and moving away from what FFXIV originally was. It'll probably just end up taking a year or two before there is any significant post 50 content.

    People who are screaming for content NOW and are comparing it to other MMOs fail to remember that it took WoW a few years and several million concurrent subscriptions before Burning Crusade was even a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagrant-0 View Post
    People who are screaming for content NOW and are comparing it to other MMOs fail to remember that it took WoW a few years and several million concurrent subscriptions before Burning Crusade was even a thing.
    At least in WoW I had more than one true lvl 50 dungeon to complete (Upper and lower BRD, Scholo, that undead one with two sides in EP, and a few more I can't recall atm) and world PvP. A month or two later they added multiple BGs to fight in + separate progression/rewards for it, multiple reps to grind, and then 3x 40 man raids + multiple open world raid bosses that dropped top gears. Heck I spent 3 months literally just fighting in TM vs SS battles and infact never even made a forum post for a long time since I had lots to do. People say WoW had no content at launch but I personally remember it having far far FAR more than FF 14 currently has...in next update we get housing beta (yawn), one 4v4 wow arena (lame), Crystal Keep, 4th Primal fight, and 2x 4 man HMs; all that should have been at launch and not 3+ months later....
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    Last edited by sasakusaku; 10-10-2013 at 12:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagrant-0 View Post
    I can kinda see it in this way... What we have now is exactly that, a tutorial. A sort of pregame to allow both legacy players and new ones to get to about the same point to make up for the fact that the previous incarnation was so bad while not giving those legacy players such a huge advantage.

    Everything after level 50 is essentially where the real game begins... Unfortunately this is also where current content ends. The next few content additions will probably be geared towards raising the level cap and moving away from what FFXIV originally was. It'll probably just end up taking a year or two before there is any significant post 50 content.

    People who are screaming for content NOW and are comparing it to other MMOs fail to remember that it took WoW a few years and several million concurrent subscriptions before Burning Crusade was even a thing.
    And what? More dugeons? as Sasakusaku said (yawn). More Primal fights? (yawn).... Same old same old...
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    Completely agreed with OP. Some ppl are just whiners, some are white knights. These are the communities lol.However to make changes to what OP had mentioned required tons of funds and it's very unlikely gonna change. Like how i mentioned about some animations and graphical problems, it's still happening. Due to how much money involved just to fix these things. However i feel the game is not grasping me. For example, archers can run backfacing the enemy while shooting arrows, and the arrows still hit them. There's no projectiles seen from the arrows, etc etc etc. well.. sigh. welcome to ARR.
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Permata View Post
    Completely agreed with OP. Some ppl are just whiners, some are white knights. These are the communities lol.However to make changes to what OP had mentioned required tons of funds and it's very unlikely gonna change. Like how i mentioned about some animations and graphical problems, it's still happening. Due to how much money involved just to fix these things. However i feel the game is not grasping me. For example, archers can run backfacing the enemy while shooting arrows, and the arrows still hit them. There's no projectiles seen from the arrows, etc etc etc. well.. sigh. welcome to ARR.
    Well Look at how fast they screwed up FFXI with just 1 Abysea expansion, perhaps they can completely change ARR in a good way with 1 expansion!
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    117 Votes so far! I wonder how many views and votes I'll need to get before an SE person comments.. hmm...
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    118, actually. And excellent articulation, Athena. I personally prefer an easier game; Final Fantasy XI was a drag after Lv. 10, and sitting around shouting for missions killed my enjoyment. I agree with you, though; Fourteen is entirely too easy.
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    I agree with OP.
    I can't understand why have EXP and Level system, at all. I mean, if the game "starts" only at level 50 (if spamming one dungeon can be considered game), just make a whole tutorial that gives better items periodically, as quests from 1 to 49 do.
    And about crafting, when I first played ARR I though to myself: "Nice crafting system, I hope the game puts them to use, like getting rare recipes and materials from several dugeons to make better items than drop/quest reward. I really hope it doesn't become useless as most of MMO's." Well......

    And for those talking about OP wanting another FFXI, I've never played FFXI* and I still agree with OP.

    *FFXI was so bad-advertised in my country that if you ask anyone about FFXI, they don't even know it existed or they say "Isn't that an online FF that failed?"
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