FFXIV Bitter Sweet

[Klefth]

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And in this post, this guy has pretty much summarized how I feel about this game as it stands (for the most part).

The only reason I'm still subbed is because I'm still waiting for them to wake up and realize what they've done to the game, that this "standard" model is nothing but a quick, short-sighted cash-in without future - it's only worked for the game that imposed it, and it only did because of popularity and massive hype, not because it was actually "good". I'm still here only because of a rather foolish hope that the game will eventually change for the better. Wishful thinking? Yeah, maybe, but hey, this is the same dev team that managed to turn the awful game that 1.0 was into the great thing 1.23 was becoming, so... maybe?

[MistressAthena]

And in this post, this guy has pretty much summarized how I feel about this game as it stands (for the most part).

The only reason I'm still subbed is because I'm still waiting for them to wake up and realize what they've done to the game, that this "standard" model is nothing but a quick, short-sighted cash-in without future - it's only worked for the game that imposed it, and it only did because of popularity and massive hype, not because it was actually "good". I'm still here only because of a rather foolish hope that the game will eventually change for the better. Wishful thinking? Yeah, maybe, but hey, this is the same dev team that managed to turn the awful game that 1.0 was into the great thing 1.23 was becoming, so... maybe?

It's not the same dev team. The 1.0 Dev team was fired, this dev team only did what 1.0 dev team was going to do through to 1.23. While then creating their new "Realm Remessedup" at the same time.

[Klefth]

It's not the same dev team. The 1.0 Dev team was fired, this dev team only did what 1.0 dev team was going to do through to 1.23. While then creating their new "Realm Remessedup" at the same time.

I thought it actually was Yoshi's team that did all the changes that led up to 1.23. Well, if that's true, then that just made me lose a bit of that hope...

[MistressAthena]

I thought it actually was Yoshi's team that did all the changes that led up to 1.23. Well, if that's true, then that just made me lose a bit of that hope...

It's just what I heard at any rate. Which it seems to be what happened in retrospect.

[Trancery]

Very well-written and thought out OP. Well done!

I completely agree

[Soukyuu]

It's not the same dev team. The 1.0 Dev team was fired, this dev team only did what 1.0 dev team was going to do through to 1.23. While then creating their new "Realm Remessedup" at the same time.

It is pretty much the same dev team. They moved people around after Tanaka was replaced by Yoshida, but mostly around the top of the hierarchy. The rest stayed the same, it's just a different direction they are now taking, largely determined by what Yoshida is telling them to do.

[MistressAthena]

It is pretty much the same dev team. They moved people around after Tanaka was replaced by Yoshida, but mostly around the top of the hierarchy. The rest stayed the same, it's just a different direction they are now taking, largely determined by what Yoshida is telling them to do.

I thought it was the whole dev team that got replaced. I see.

[Vagrant-0]

I can kinda see it in this way... What we have now is exactly that, a tutorial. A sort of pregame to allow both legacy players and new ones to get to about the same point to make up for the fact that the previous incarnation was so bad while not giving those legacy players such a huge advantage.

Everything after level 50 is essentially where the real game begins... Unfortunately this is also where current content ends. The next few content additions will probably be geared towards raising the level cap and moving away from what FFXIV originally was. It'll probably just end up taking a year or two before there is any significant post 50 content.

People who are screaming for content NOW and are comparing it to other MMOs fail to remember that it took WoW a few years and several million concurrent subscriptions before Burning Crusade was even a thing.

[sasakusaku]

People who are screaming for content NOW and are comparing it to other MMOs fail to remember that it took WoW a few years and several million concurrent subscriptions before Burning Crusade was even a thing.

At least in WoW I had more than one true lvl 50 dungeon to complete (Upper and lower BRD, Scholo, that undead one with two sides in EP, and a few more I can't recall atm) and world PvP. A month or two later they added multiple BGs to fight in + separate progression/rewards for it, multiple reps to grind, and then 3x 40 man raids + multiple open world raid bosses that dropped top gears. Heck I spent 3 months literally just fighting in TM vs SS battles and infact never even made a forum post for a long time since I had lots to do. People say WoW had no content at launch but I personally remember it having far far FAR more than FF 14 currently has...in next update we get housing beta (yawn), one 4v4 wow arena (lame), Crystal Keep, 4th Primal fight, and 2x 4 man HMs; all that should have been at launch and not 3+ months later....

[MistressAthena]

I can kinda see it in this way... What we have now is exactly that, a tutorial. A sort of pregame to allow both legacy players and new ones to get to about the same point to make up for the fact that the previous incarnation was so bad while not giving those legacy players such a huge advantage.

Everything after level 50 is essentially where the real game begins... Unfortunately this is also where current content ends. The next few content additions will probably be geared towards raising the level cap and moving away from what FFXIV originally was. It'll probably just end up taking a year or two before there is any significant post 50 content.

People who are screaming for content NOW and are comparing it to other MMOs fail to remember that it took WoW a few years and several million concurrent subscriptions before Burning Crusade was even a thing.

And what? More dugeons? as Sasakusaku said (yawn). More Primal fights? (yawn).... Same old same old...