End game... Bored. The facts.

[Starlord]

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MMOs tend to fail pretty quickly if the game isn't "up to par" fairly fast

Unless your a major company like SE that has endless amounts of money it would seem XD.

you blow past almost all of it since it's simple 4 man content till the final 2

Simple to you can be hard for others, I key up duty finder and even the first 3 dungeons I have had some people who don't tank right or don't heal leading to multiple deaths ( and me rage quitting lol). Anything is "simple" if you have the right tools with you.

(Quests/FATES/LEVEs can't be counted as content since those are basic systems for games to level you.)

They are content whether it's solo or for a party it IS content, just you don't consider it content which is fine your opinion. To me it's content.

yoshi "end-game is the start" like other MMOs, there's not that much there yet

I will agree with this as he DID say that end-game is the start and there isn't much end-game content as of yet. However, give it a 1-2 patches at that point end-game content will be there for sure ( 2.1 has Crystal Tower, 2 Primals, 1 New Dungeon, 2 known Dungeons made into hard modes with a whole different layout, Wolves Den (PvP), getting large amounts of gil for a house *I consider that end game since they will cost alot of gil, All primals will have a harder mode of sorts). and other things they haven't talk to us about yet.

They are working very hard to make this game awesome, end-game is not there right now sure, but in 2.1 they are clearly showing that they mean business for the end-gamers.

End-game Post 2.1:

1) Coil
2) Crystal Tower
3) Primals ( Garuda/Ifrit/Titan/Moogle/?) (Extra Modes)
4) Dungeon called "Pharos Sirius"
5) Mythos
6) 2 Dungeons Known being revamped for hard mode
7) PvP ( Wolves Den) Get those points to get those sexy PvP Gear!
8) Housing ( Getting/Building the house part)
9) Relic Reborn Quest ( Long)

2.2 All that is known is more turns for Binding Coil

Personally, by the years end of next year You'll be drowning in end-game content ( don't worry)

To me that looks very hefty for me personally.

[Stryker]

Niche markets are very hard specifically because they're niche. Any big company is going to want to get as much as they can rather than cater to a niche market. It's like in any business. Would you rather be Wal-mart and make massive amounts of money or be a small farmers market? Both can succeed but companies have CEO's, Boards, and shareholders they report to so they're not going to go for peanuts.

As it stands, I don't think 14 is not set up to find a "niche" market in the gaming industry. It's hinging on drawing people with the FF name along with pulling some mechanics from other games. Now whether that's the recipe for success or not, only time will tell. With the end game being what it is, the new content needs to start coming out soon or else they're going to lose more subs.

MMO's are now a competitive genre due to the massive amount of continual revenue you can earn from it. CCP who makes Eve has basically just had 1 game for the past decade. They recently released Dust for some added revenue but they're a prime example of what a niche market in the MMO industry really is.

Oh and actually SE hasn't been doing to well. Over the past 5 years their stock has dropped significantly. They've had many flops and with the JRPG market being poached by smaller companies and their FF brand not doing as well.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Best_s...are-Enix_games

I don't know how reputable this source is, but if these numbers serve to be correct then the older FF's did a lot better than the newer ones. This doesn't have anything newer than 13 on it of course so it's a bit dated, but it goes to show you how they've definitely lost hype behind their FF series.

http://www.vg247.com/2012/11/27/fina...enix-director/

Also an article on how important it is for the relaunch to be successful. I've seen articles like this a few places last year when 1.0 shut down. The same article has a link saying that 11 is their most profitable game the company has had. So most likely means that they invested a shitload of money into 14. Both versions.

[CaZx]

Probably a mistake that I played this game from what I'm seeing, way too many casual players for my taste

....lmao...really now? I mean I could of sworn that about an hour ago I was running around Mor Dhona doing quests and I kept seeing shouts like this.

"*Insert dungeon here* LFM must be FULLY geared and must know the ENTIRE fight...NO EXCEPTIONS"

I am not sure about you but from my stance..casual players do not have that sort of attitude when it comes to playing and grouping. I must say that based upon what I have seen myself from the end game areas..and what I have seen on these forums..it would appear that the 1337 players are the ones bringing the entire end game community down with their poor attitudes.

Back on topic, I agree with the OP..good post.

[ScoutDesu]

Hmm, it says the facts in the tittle, But all i see is opinion. the real fact is its still vanilla, no true content has bin release yet. The game is still a baby give it some time.

[Rochetm]

....lmao...really now? I mean I could of sworn that about an hour ago I was running around Mor Dhona doing quests and I kept seeing shouts like this.

"*Insert dungeon here* LFM must be FULLY geared and must know the ENTIRE fight...NO EXCEPTIONS"

They are doing this on my server for Ifrit... Must have DL... /sigh

[Trife]

Sigh.... The facts are OP is just another impatient one. Hasn't anybody read the future patch notes?!? News flash! New content is coming! Yes people, this is a new game. Get over it already..... The only issue here is this "I need it now!!!!!" attitude.. You did it to yourselves with this new generation of supposed "gamers" wanting to make end-game in 2 days or it's "waaa it's too much of a grind! I want every game to be just like WoW" You guys that cry about bad design, it's all your fault.

[Rochetm]

Sigh.... The facts are OP is just another impatient one. Hasn't anybody read the future patch notes?!? News flash! New content is coming! Yes people, this is a new game. Get over it already..... The only issue here is this "I need it now!!!!!" attitude.. You did it to yourselves with this new generation of supposed "gamers" wanting to make end-game in 2 days or it's "waaa it's too much of a grind! I want every game to be just like WoW" You guys that cry about bad design, it's all your fault.

Welcome to the World of Warcraft... world... stuff.. YEAH!

In other news there are things to do other than "beating" the game. Level other jobs, do quests... explore... help others. If you are bored a month in then there is nothing they could do except make leveling a slow grind from hell, end game a slow grind from hell, and remove those teleports. Or they could keep the game the way it is and be awesome...

[Lafiele]

If you race to the end of anything, everything is going to look like crap.

[Stryker]

I feel like people aren't grasping the fact that most players on legacy servers didn't rush towards anything. They have this stuff from 1.0. Also with how fate grinding works you can hit 1-50 in a week or 2 of reasonable playing. To say not to fate grind is basically like driving through the countryside at 55 MPH in order to "see" the scenery. While some people will take this option most people will speed on by and stop at the big sites rather than "taking" it all in.

So you can't really use the "you rushed" through the content so it's all your fault. Most people will blow through the content because they made it childishly easy. Leveling side classes or crafting is just a time sink which from what I've read is mind numbingly easy and pointless for the most part.

If you hit 50 in 2 weeks that still leaves 4 more weeks to be at the "end game content". 4 weeks is a lot of time even for casual gamers like me, and I didn't even have a lvl 50 when I started out.

[Starlord]

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I still don't have my first 50 yet, right now I'm on cruise control leveling up ALL my jobs, not just one. and I'm a semi-casual. 34+ leveling gets steeper to push through. For some people it's easy, but for me it is hard at some point I have to face those levels, but for now I'm getting my other classes up.