FFXIV Bitter Sweet

[MistressAthena]

This is complete bull****

You know how many stories I have about monsters in the fields of FFXI? Zero. I actually like that I can kill everything in the open maps (well except FATE bosses) solo in FFXIV, it means that when I need materials I can go get them myself and that I have the freedom to explore all the open areas.

Getting agro and being capable of killing what agro'd me sure beats the hell out of the "excitement" of knowing that if I got agro in a high level zone in FFXI I'd most likely be dead.

Nobody said it had to be stupid hard, but it doesn't need to be mindlessly stupid easy either, but if that's what suits you, that's great

But what they said still holds true.. How many "epic stories" do you have for FFXIV? Not many, and every story I've heard is anything but "epic". Because ultimately in the end it was either latency stuff, stupid teammates, and button mashing.

Totally different story for FFXI. So what they said still holds true, and is anything but bullshit. Even if you don't like how hard FFXI was, and how mindlessly easy FFXIV is.

[Umero]

Opinions require thinking.
I prefer VIT over Def. That's my preference.
I prefer VIT over Def because I think VIT benefits me better. The 2nd part of this sentence is an opinion.

So when people say "(I think) that is better than this" even without "I think", it's considered as an opinion of them.
Preference is just something you like/prefer.

I prefer VIT over Def even though (I think) Def is better. The first part is a preference; the second part is an opinion.

[Krystalynn]

This is the best damn post on the board, and guess what, Yoshi won't care... because he made money and Tanaka didn't... and it really is as simple as that. -.-

I'll miss FFXIV honestly. Hell I miss the Final Fantasy series as a whole. They're so busy trying to celebrate the past through nostalgia, they've forgotten why it was nostalgic in the first place.

Edit: The only thing that gives me hope is FFXIV 1.0 was a HORRID game at launch, but was actually, pretty fucking fun for me by the time it died in 1.23. It got ridiculously fun for me after a years time and they revamped the battle system, enhanced the world, added a ton of new story. But this took the team time.

I think for being four months old, this launch of WAY better than what 1.0 had to deal with... and, given the year and a half it took 1.0 to get good, I'm willing to give Yoshi the same chance.

But he won't get good without threads like this bringing up real issues. Even if they're emotionally sourced, I don't want Yoshi comfortable. We keep singing his praises, he's going to drop the ball at the wrong time. He's good at fixing other people's messes, he should be good at fixing his own.

In the meantime Athena, this is for you. Thanks for reminding me I'm not alone. I think of what this game was and could be and it makes my heart ache too badly to write what you did. Thanks for being my voice where all I had were tears and muttered wishes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oquox8Wnag4

[MistressAthena]

This is the best damn post on the board, and guess what, Yoshi won't care... because he made money and Tanaka didn't... and it really is as simple as that. -.-

I'll miss FFXIV honestly. Hell I miss the Final Fantasy series as a whole. They're so busy trying to celebrate the past through nostalgia, they've forgotten why it was nostalgic in the first place.

Edit: The only thing that gives me hope is FFXIV 1.0 was a HORRID game at launch, but was actually, pretty fucking fun for me by the time it died in 1.23. It got ridiculously fun for me after a years time and they revamped the battle system, enhanced the world, added a ton of new story. But this took the team time.

I think for being four months old, this launch of WAY better than what 1.0 had to deal with... and, given the year and a half it took 1.0 to get good, I'm willing to give Yoshi the same chance.

But he won't get good without threads like this bringing up real issues. Even if they're emotionally sourced, I don't want Yoshi comfortable. We keep singing his praises, he's going to drop the ball at the wrong time. He's good at fixing other people's messes, he should be good at fixing his own.

In the meantime Athena, this is for you. Thanks for reminding me I'm not alone. I think of what this game was and could be and it makes my heart ache too badly to write what you did. Thanks for being my voice where all I had were tears and muttered wishes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oquox8Wnag4

Aww Thank you ^.^. You know I have alot of the FFXIV songs on my computer. I even have memories of the dungeons in the old FFXIV. Going through the open dungeons, with the epic dungeon music, then it switching seamlessly with a faster beat one for battles, and back. Alot of good things they killed with FFXIV:ARR

[Noodle]

This is the best damn post on the board, and guess what, Yoshi won't care... because he made money and Tanaka didn't... and it really is as simple as that. -.-

I'll miss FFXIV honestly. Hell I miss the Final Fantasy series as a whole. They're so busy trying to celebrate the past through nostalgia, they've forgotten why it was nostalgic in the first place.

The second part I quoted I could not agree with more. Too much fanservice, to little innovation.

I don't think they were looking to turn FFXIV 1.0 around into something totally innovative. It doesn't seem like they were willing to take that chance, with what was riding on 2.0's success.

I'm willing to give Yoshi-P some time, the game is relatively new. But there are somes things that there are just no turning back from. Including the OP's statement on cramped environments, lack of immersion, and a game that's content 1-49 is pointless dribble.

[MistressAthena]

Let's revive :3

[Phe]

I enjoy the game.
Honestly i'm pretty excited for April 4th tho.

SE got 3 months to polish things up.

[Rizzo_]

I must admit at times while progressing through the storyline all I was doing was just skipping the dialogue until it tells me what area I have to go to then kill or take whatever I had to and return. It felt extremely repetitive and the cut scenes I felt were woeful. I also dislike the battle mechanics highly due to the fact I believe it doesn't really take much skill to understand and everyone looks the exact same when attacking or fighting a boss. I like challenges and stuff that will test my skill and for me this game hasn't really tested my skill. With that being said, I still feel that it is an very good game just needs a few things to improve.

[Xairos]

Those epic stories came from us players triumphing over the walls placed there to drag out the play time. Remember Promys? how each floor could kill you and each floor's exit was randomized (slightly)? That was there just to drag out the content. So any epic story came from the statistically low chance that someone could get caught staring at one of the high hurdles and get out unscathed. In FFXI one big compliant late in its life was that certain fights needed certain jobs in order to win.

One could argue that this mentality forces people to level one of the each side of the trinity in order not to be excluded from content. Like beastmaster? have fun soloing if you only want that to be your job.

Was this memorable? oh yes it was. was it designed in an effort to be memorable? no. it was designed to be a timesink. So with FFXIV we get the lack of a huge time sink, and as a result we get the feeling that we cant make memories.

[erish]

While i dont agree with alot of what you have wrote, i am glad you have taken the time to express your concerns in a well written post that with some luck might get noticed by forum moderators and passed along to the higher ups. For that reason alone im likeing your OP to try and help it gain attention.