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    As a warrior on COil, turn 1, I can say this.

    1, any content a paladin can tank, a warrior will be able to do. What that means is, where ever a paladin can go a warrior can go. The are warriors on turn 4 of coil and survive just fine.

    2. Warriors WILL unfornately put more stress on a healer. This does NOT matter though until Titan HM and beyond where it becomes painfully obvious. I had a experience as a war tank on titan hm, where I made it to 10-5% of titan hm as a Main tank. What ended up killing me was the healers began wiping because they had to focus more on healing me and less on their own survival. The very same healers one shot Titan hm when a paladin tank came to tank, with me as the off tank. The paladin while he did take loads of damage, his health never did drop below 70%. My health on the other hand always droped to somewhere around 30 and some times 20% and maybe a inner beast would off set that by 10% if that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cessna View Post
    1, any content a paladin can tank, a warrior will be able to do. What that means is, where ever a paladin can go a warrior can go. The are warriors on turn 4 of coil and survive just fine.
    A WAR will never be able to do this: https://i.imgur.com/0dsjoyx.png
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    >_> *rolls eyes* Coil turn one.

    I've been able to hold my own on that battle as off tank long as the steel scales don't get out of hand. As long as the healers bring their A game I live., actually correction, everybody brings their a game, I live.

    I haven't BEAT it yet, but there are warriors out there that have killed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cessna View Post
    >_> *rolls eyes* Coil turn one.

    I've been able to hold my own on that battle as off tank long as the steel scales don't get out of hand. As long as the healers bring their A game I live., actually correction, everybody brings their a game, I live.

    I haven't BEAT it yet, but there are warriors out there that have killed it.
    You're not looking close enough at the picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cessna View Post
    >_> *rolls eyes* Coil turn one.

    I've been able to hold my own on that battle as off tank long as the steel scales don't get out of hand. As long as the healers bring their A game I live., actually correction, everybody brings their a game, I live.

    I haven't BEAT it yet, but there are warriors out there that have killed it.
    You totally missed the point. There's no off-tank in that screenshot. A PLD solo tanked it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cessna View Post
    >_> *rolls eyes* Coil turn one.

    I've been able to hold my own on that battle as off tank long as the steel scales don't get out of hand. As long as the healers bring their A game I live., actually correction, everybody brings their a game, I live.

    I haven't BEAT it yet, but there are warriors out there that have killed it.
    *rolls eyes*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachiko View Post
    A WAR will never be able to do this: https://i.imgur.com/0dsjoyx.png
    I wouldn't say *never*, but it's highly unlikely that any WAR could do this currently, for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachiko View Post
    A WAR will never be able to do this: https://i.imgur.com/0dsjoyx.png
    Actually, a WAR can(and has). You just need to kite ;D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cessna View Post
    As a warrior on COil, turn 1, I can say this.

    1, any content a paladin can tank, a warrior will be able to do. What that means is, where ever a paladin can go a warrior can go. The are warriors on turn 4 of coil and survive just fine.
    There are no Warriors who have main tanked coil turn 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faction View Post
    There are no Warriors who have main tanked coil turn 4.
    I never said Main tank. Maybe I didn't come across clear, I saying that a warrior in theory would be able to complete all content. Which they HAVE so far.

    Also I see I'm wrong about that turn and I'm sorry in general. I thought it was turn 1.

    But anyhoo on to the next thing.


    One very simple way at looking at this is, if a boss is doing 1000 DPS and the Warrior takes 950 HPS to keep up, while the Paladin only has to take 680 HPS, but the healer is capable of putting out 1500+ HPS, whats the issue? All that happens here is the amount of healing done per mana spent is maximized on a Warrior where it is not wasted as it would be on a Paladin where it would fall to overhealing.
    The problem is like a above poster mentioned... is stress to healers. I even have a story. I was main tanking Titan HM, and I was able to get to 10% health of Titan hm. Everytime I wiped, it was due to the healers dying first. They were concentraiting on keeping me alive and less about their own survival. The same healers when I was used as a dps / off tank one shot titan using a paladin. The paladin health never droped beneath 70% 60% worst hits of MT buster. And the healers could focus on other things like living. They flat out told me that my tanking was good it just was they couldn't focus enough to heal all that more damage and keep dodging. While yes a war doesn't have mitigation, its absolute bullshit square that we make healers work harder at all.
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    Last edited by Cessna; 10-08-2013 at 05:56 PM.

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