This has to stop.

[Felis]

This makes me wanna start Queueing CM on my whm just so I can watch every CS and troll all the raging players.

Me full DL and relic +1 YEAH I never finished story hold on guise!!!!

Just say to them you have your DL from 1.0

[Fuz]

I don't know why people let random people in the duty finder bully them into skipping cut scenes. I remember my first time where one tank was yelling for people to skip the CS's and I just ignored him and watched them anyway. They cant exactly stop you and there's nothing they can do to you. People just need to stop being intimidated by 12 year olds on the internet.

Not everyone has a strong character and can react to psychological harassment... that's why bullying exist in the first place.

[Kafziel]

I am personally fine with people watching cut scenes if they want to. However, if only one or two are watching cut scenes then don't expect the rest of the group to stand around waiting for you.
To those saying watching the cut scenes is doing the dungeons as intended I say then why is their an option to skip the cut scenes? SE intended for people to be able to skip the cut scenes even their first time.

the quest description even says Use the Duty Finder to enter Castrum Meridianum.

Of course it does. All groups, even pre-formed ones, must enter CM through the Duty Finder. Just like every dungeon must be entered using the dungeon finder.

As for those who say SE is not to blame. They are. There was no reason to make a story dungeon one of the best end game grinding dungeons. If they had separated these two things we would not be having this discussion.

[Tyndles]

+1 to "story is meant to be watched the first time, not rewound on the TiVO in your inn room. " To watch all the story segments in CM takes about 12 minutes if someone reads slow. It isn't going to ruin your day. Even if it happens multiple times per evening. Hell, lets say you do 10 runs in an evening, and you lose 120 minutes because someone watches the cut scenes every time. (Which is extremely unlikely to happen, but roll with it here.) Yeah, you lost 2 hours that evening, but you let AT LEAST 10 people enjoy a story and made their night by letting them experience the story the way it was intended. There are much worse ways to lose 2 hours a night.

That said, if anyone here is coming up to the end of their storylines on Balmung, send me a tell, I'll go with you and argue that your storylines not be skipped.

[Rochetm]

The amount of stupid required for someone to join DF and want speed runs is beyond what I thought possible.

[AridElf]

Whenever I join CM and someone is watching their cutscenes I do too. Why? Because I'm a tank and if I can draw some of the rabid hate from the party members away from the new guy/girl who wants to experience the story properly, I damn well will.

I don't mind people watching the cutscenes, I did it on my first run, if you don't like it then form a party outside of the Duty Finder else you'll just have to take the gamble.

[PapesseLudovique]

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So basically everyone else needs to be inconvenienced but you. (and really, lets drop the pretense that you give half a damn about anyone else in your party. I don't buy it. Nothing about your attitude seems anything but self serving.) You can't stand waiting a few minutes for a fellow player to enjoy the game you're both playing.

This is why SMART people join FC's and/or form what are called 'static parties'. Parties that have regular members, and schedule weekly runs. That's what REAL farmers do. Not sit in the party finder, and whine when a new player is in the group. That's how you farm with anything close to efficiency.

[PapesseLudovique]

Teenager logic

The only people with that "gogogo" attitude (that WoW helped rot the mmorpg community with), are people who want everything a month after release, then bitch about how bored they are, when they realize they've burned their content.

Rude is enjoying yourself the first time, then ruining the enjoyment of others, just because you've finished and don't care about the people who were literally just like you, weeks ago. That's a sophomore attitude. Asking them to, is ok. Running ahead, is spiteful. I really doubt anyone is going to watch the movie just to make you upset. But running ahead and taking away their experience, because you happened to finish sooner, is about as rude as you can get.

Your fiftieth cyclical run this week, isn't as special as their first, so grow up.

[gou_bear]

You can always go to the Inn and re watch all your videos in the game that you have unlocked on your own time :P

[PapesseLudovique]

Don't be fooled by the people who use the "Seven other people" as an excuse. None of them give a leprechaun's lucky green shit about anyone else. They're using as large a number as possible to reinforce a weak argument. They only care as far as it suits them. Those six people are allies because they agree. Take that away and those six other people could drop dead for all they care.

Frankly I'm done feeding their circular logic. No amount of arguing or logical debate, will make a self centered person think about others.