This has to stop.

[dontcare]

Say, maybe those seven people should form their own party! You know, because there are oh so much more of you.

Right? I mean if you outnumber the first timers, you should have NO problem forming a like minded party...RIGHT?

Forming a premade requires more effort and is less convenient than using the duty finder. Why should the majority of players use the less convenient method of forming a party? Using the duty finder for speedruns inconveniences the fewest number of players overall.

New players are less likely to be able to get constant groups than end game farmers, and you KNOW IT.

If all speedrunners ceased using the duty finder as you suggest, new players would be just as likely to find constant groups in the DF as they would be forming their own groups now.

[juniglee]

Forming a premade requires more effort and is less convenient than using the duty finder. Why should the majority of players use the less convenient method of forming a party? Using the duty finder for speedruns inconveniences the fewest amount of players overall.

If all speedrunners ceased using the duty finder as you suggest, new players would be just as likely to find constant groups in the DF as they would be forming their own groups now.

It's not that much effort - I don't even have to lift a finger for it. In my FC, the moment someone says they are looking to start a CM speed run party, it fills up within 2 minutes, off to the queue right after. There are more speed runners than new players who want to watch cutscenes in the game.

If all speedrunners ceased using the duty finder, new players would constantly find a group in DF too, but in general they are expected to use the DF compared to speed runners - the quest description even says Use the Duty Finder to enter Castrum Meridianum.

Stop throwing new players under the bus - people like you will have a much easier time finding a speed running party, than them finding a cutscene watching party.

[PapesseLudovique]

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So basically everyone else needs to be inconvenienced but you. (and really, lets drop the pretense that you give half a damn about anyone else in your party. I don't buy it. Nothing about your attitude seems anything but self serving.) You can't stand waiting a few minutes for a fellow player to enjoy the game you're both playing.

This is why SMART people join FC's and/or form what are called 'static parties'. Parties that have regular members, and schedule weekly runs. That's what REAL farmers do. Not sit in the party finder, and whine when a new player is in the group. That's how you farm with anything close to efficiency.