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  1. #191
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    juniglee's Avatar
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    Delenia Forcentis
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    Tonberry
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by dontcare View Post
    Forming a premade requires more effort and is less convenient than using the duty finder. Why should the majority of players use the less convenient method of forming a party? Using the duty finder for speedruns inconveniences the fewest amount of players overall.

    If all speedrunners ceased using the duty finder as you suggest, new players would be just as likely to find constant groups in the DF as they would be forming their own groups now.
    It's not that much effort - I don't even have to lift a finger for it. In my FC, the moment someone says they are looking to start a CM speed run party, it fills up within 2 minutes, off to the queue right after. There are more speed runners than new players who want to watch cutscenes in the game.

    If all speedrunners ceased using the duty finder, new players would constantly find a group in DF too, but in general they are expected to use the DF compared to speed runners - the quest description even says Use the Duty Finder to enter Castrum Meridianum.

    Stop throwing new players under the bus - people like you will have a much easier time finding a speed running party, than them finding a cutscene watching party.
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  2. #192
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    Hed Luminos
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    That's why I saw queueing up with JP only. If someone watches the cutscenes they don't say anything about it. They may continue on without them though. Not that it really matters because they'll still get to see the CS lol.
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  3. #193
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    Brises Ravenheart
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Here's an easy fix. There needs to be two options when you register for duty finder. Include cut scenes or don't include them. then everyone can choose the type of run they want. And the version that includes cut scenes, advancement should be blocked until all have finished or skipped them.
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  4. 10-04-2013 10:58 AM
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    someone else raised same point

  5. #194
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    Lunavi's Avatar
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Agree, this has to stop. Personally I skipped first time. The cutscreenes was too bad to watch in CM and the last one was timedemanding as it was and I did not want to risk that the run I queued for in 3½ hour failed. Still had a player watching though and patient and nice (having common sense and giving proper respect to other players) as we was we let him do so without quarrel, just like it SHOULD be!
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  6. #195
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    Tiger Wong
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    Add 100 more tomestones to the final boss if a first timer successfully watches all cutscenes, done.

    Then people will start begging you to watch everything
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  7. #196
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    Gaeandilth Grey
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    Goblin
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Majority rules! If your in a party and 7 people say skip the cutscene and you don't they are not elitist or being rude YOU are. Count yourself lucky you get in to CM with experienced people and run it fast because in an ALL new group it takes most of that 2 hour timer(more then that fi they really suck). What needs to stop is the afk moochers you can not do anything about them if you report them it does no good. Hell I reported griefing on garuda hard mode where a whm just chain pulled the boss to wipe the party till someone left to avoid the 15 minute debuff and SE pretty much said hes allowed to play how he wants so go shit in a hat.

    Vote kick is needed. A blacklist for the duty finder is needed. Or a master solution would be get rid of the duty finder altogether so people will learn to play and gear up so they will get invited to groups.
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  8. #197
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    RyuujinZERO's Avatar
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    K'hali Thalen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minigae View Post
    Majority rules! If your in a party and 7 people say skip the cutscene and you don't they are not elitist or being rude YOU are. Count yourself lucky you get in to CM with experienced people and run it fast because in an ALL new group it takes most of that 2 hour timer(more then that fi they really suck).
    Gee, I feel so lucky waiting in queue half an hour only to be lumped in with a team that won't let me watch the cut-scenes. Guess i better throw the dice and hope in another 45 minutes my new team isn't also speed running it.

    No, this isn't an answer
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  9. #198
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Doesn't really matter much if 1 person wants to watch a cutscene let them. We just kept going on with the run killing trash, bosses ect while he watches. CM is so easy you don't even need all the people to continue if 1 guy is watching CS, let them not really slowing the run down too much. We didn't really care if we had 1 guy in CS full time.
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  10. #199
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    Jonn Snow
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    Do people not realize that NOBODY is forcing you to skip them? Just watch them and let people complain.
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  11. #200
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    juniglee's Avatar
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    Delenia Forcentis
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    Tonberry
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Minigae View Post
    Majority rules! If your in a party and 7 people say skip the cutscene and you don't they are not elitist or being rude YOU are. Count yourself lucky you get in to CM with experienced people and run it fast because in an ALL new group it takes most of that 2 hour timer(more then that fi they really suck). What needs to stop is the afk moochers you can not do anything about them if you report them it does no good. Hell I reported griefing on garuda hard mode where a whm just chain pulled the boss to wipe the party till someone left to avoid the 15 minute debuff and SE pretty much said hes allowed to play how he wants so go shit in a hat.

    Vote kick is needed. A blacklist for the duty finder is needed. Or a master solution would be get rid of the duty finder altogether so people will learn to play and gear up so they will get invited to groups.
    I didn't know that clearing CM anything more than 30 minutes is considered as bad. Gee, we have standards for clearing dungeons in record time now?

    I don't need an experienced group to complete CM. Any new player can complete CM with a relatively new team - that's what a story mode dungeon is, right?

    Vote kick will make people like you gloat more, because you can now vote and kick the newbie, who will have to make the choice between enjoying the content he is entitled to, and paid for, or to satiate the 7 other people like you who feel their time is more important than anyone else's. Compassion and empathy are lost moral values of our society these days.
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