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    Umbrah's Avatar
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    You're all complaining about nothing.

    If you farm materials, spiritbond/convert, craft, or gather, sell tomb materials, you will make plenty of gil.
    I make minimum 100K a day.
    Spiritbonding/converting level 49-50 jewelry set gives me 5 level III materia which I sell on market for 8K each minimum and can be done from just running dungeons. - Usually 50-80K a set.
    Gathering materials through a gathering class like fishing, botany or mining works perfectly as some crafters would rather pay instead of gather themselves. - 100K+ per day
    Farm materials like diremite web, fleece, snurble tufts etc - this leads to minimum 40K a stack, time varies for stack depending on competition.
    Crafting - turn those raw materials you've gathered into base materials eg. Flax into linen yarn then sell on linen yarn on market - 50K per stack minimum
    Sell Tomb Materials - You can use tombs to buy potash and other high end materials and they sell for 30K+ each and cost 125 tombs I believe.

    Anyone complaining is just a sook and wants to just run AK constantly forever and still make millions fast.
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    I think it should be fun not boring to make money ... how bet a betting system on choco races .. or u can bet on pvp fights wager if u win
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    Ritz Blitz
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by TwoEggs View Post
    I think it should be fun not boring to make money ... how bet a betting system on choco races .. or u can bet on pvp fights wager if u win
    I'm unsure how I want to make gil myself but you could try playing the market which is a lot like gambling.
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    Player Raiz_Cineris's Avatar
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    Raiz Cineris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbrah View Post
    "I dont read"
    they arent complaining about being able to make cash from market board. They are concerned about the fall of the economy since the amount of gil sink outweigh the games ability to PRODUCE gil into the game.. This has nothing to do with exchanging gil/items between characters.. This has everything to do with how the economy if offsetting the amount of gil taken OUT of the game with the amount of gil being PUT INTO the game.

    Did you even read?
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    Romu Zari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiz_Cineris View Post
    This has everything to do with how the economy if offsetting the amount of gil taken OUT of the game with the amount of gil being PUT INTO the game
    This argument ignores that with work one can cover their "bills". Some people just don't want to do the work which was an inevitable mindset for players when the game was set to easy mode. I don't want to do the work, either. I don't want to spam battle leves or even more FATES than I already have to. So what did I do? I crafted. Even just the craft leves are far superior to battles for gil payout.

    This whole thing started a few weeks ago as "I'm a DoW/M and I can't make no real money to pay my bills unless I take a timeout and farm it! Help me!" and turned into "You should help me because I'm not naturally earning enough gil through normal play to pay my repair bills! See it's a problem of gil creation vs termination." Clever, but if there's anyone who will make you work for it, it's SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valcro View Post
    This argument ignores that with work one can cover their "bills". Some people just don't want to do the work which was an inevitable mindset for players when the game was set to easy mode. I don't want to do the work, either. I don't want to spam battle leves or even more FATES than I already have to. So what did I do? I crafted. Even just the craft leves are far superior to battles for gil payout.

    This whole thing started a few weeks ago as "I'm a DoW/M and I can't make no real money to pay my bills unless I take a timeout and farm it! Help me!" and turned into "You should help me because I'm not naturally earning enough gil through normal play to pay my repair bills! See it's a problem of gil creation vs termination." Clever, but if there's anyone who will make you work for it, it's SE.

    Working to cover your bills isn't the problem at hand. Character Maintenance costs and market board taxes are taking away more gil than the game generates. FATEs don't really generate a lot per FATE, and Leves might give gil but not really a lot to cover repair costs on gear during production for some players unless you do the crafting Leves and turn in HQ results. Right now repair costs are my major gil-sink and I could offset that by repairing it myself, but then I'd have to level like 4 crafts to repair the AF I'm using.

    My opinion is that gil has too high a value in this game. There's a reason why you never get inundated with gil-seller spam in WoW and you're slammed daily on this game. Gold in WoW isn't a highly weighted currency because it generates fast and isn't the primary source of gear and day-to-day necessities. Gil still defines all market prices, repairs, relics, etc. I stopped using the market board a long time ago and started hoarding what little gil I can (~210k and I'm almost poor by the game's standards) when I tried to buy a level 20 shield that was priced for 200k. One food for tanking: 8k. A Ring: 20k. Prices aren't in sync with the actual amounts people can afford at the proper level, and I'm thinking gil-buying became a go-to for a lot of people because of that causing the rampant inflation and large influx of gil. The perpetual prices they shout went from $3 per 1M to over $30, and I find it hard to believe that no one bought a lot of gil at that price before they banned all those accounts and that massive amount of gil.
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    Player davidbowie's Avatar
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    Zealous Jackal
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    Diabolos
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    Pugilist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Nova_Dresden View Post
    There's a reason why you never get inundated with gil-seller spam in WoW and you're slammed daily on this game. Gold in WoW isn't a highly weighted currency because it generates fast and isn't the primary source of gear and day-to-day necessities.
    lol really you run badboy thats why you don't get tells from gold farmers but they are there yes and they sell gold because people buy it and yes people craft in wow and make gold just like people craft in ffxiv so please lets not go there and act like uh it dont happen on other mmo's bullcrap!

    and gear on wow is expensive i play on one of the highest populated servers to date and i can tell you yes they exist and yes the ah market is high and people do make money from crafting the nice thing you can repair your own gear in this game if you just do the damn tradeskills.....

    by the way the gear sets look like crap in wow since mop and repairs are cheap its the mats that are expensive and you have to do raids to get many of the higher level mats and patterns...
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbowie View Post
    lol really you run badboy thats why you don't get tells from gold farmers but they are there yes and they sell gold because people buy it and yes people craft in wow and make gold just like people craft in ffxiv so please lets not go there and act like uh it dont happen on other mmo's bullcrap!

    and gear on wow is expensive i play on one of the highest populated servers to date and i can tell you yes they exist and yes the ah market is high and people do make money from crafting the nice thing you can repair your own gear in this game if you just do the damn tradeskills.....

    by the way the gear sets look like crap in wow since mop and repairs are cheap its the mats that are expensive and you have to do raids to get many of the higher level mats and patterns...
    Yeah, they are there. But they don't mass spam and no one really buys them. The currency is easily generated to maintain any personal costs, and crafted equipment is rare, if ever, best in slot. You could run Karazan up to Attumen and sell all the drops to the NPC right next to him and be able to afford repairs for well over a week. Gil still has a HIGH value in the economy and gear hierarchy on this game with limited means of accumulating it thus making it more likely to get spammed with gil ads because it's more likely that players WILL buy it. I'm almost positive they had a customer base with all the ads for 1,000,000 gil for $3. Prices were wildly high at the start of the game because pricing was set as though every player had thousands or millions readily available on a new server for the launch of a new game. And yes, we ALL could repair our own gear if we leveled the crafts, but like I said I would pretty much need to level EVERY craft to repair my gear palette and then there's the costs of some of the dark matters to do that as well as the costs of leveling the crafts (both in gil and time.) Not everyone is running around with a million gil and several level 50 crafting classes. But this is personal gil gain and not gil generation as a whole on the server.
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