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    Player davidbowie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfox71rt View Post
    I think you missed the point entirely. Whether or not someone crafts/gathers to increase their personal wealth is not the issue at stake here. The only way to GENERATE gil by crafting is either completing leves (ok) or npc-ing the products (bad). Selling wares on the market board only moves gil from one person to the next (and actually REMOVES gil from the economy via tax).
    Baloney you see people in here stating how to make gil, and choose to ignore it, hogwash the market is just like the auction house which you see in wow and many other mmo's.
    lazy players use that excuse you are wrong and this system is not new it works just the few of you refuse to use not square enix fault or the players who play game the way it was designed just because you think it is.

    ah fee in wow, a tax in ffxi on all items sold the system works if you used it you would know.

    by the way i missed nothing what i see is a bunch of lazy players refusing to utilize the system in game to earn gil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbowie View Post
    Baloney you see people in here stating how to make gil, and choose to ignore it, hogwash the market is just like the auction house which you see in wow and many other mmo's.
    lazy players use that excuse you are wrong and this system is not new it works just the few of you refuse to use not square enix fault or the players who play game the way it was designed just because you think it is.

    ah fee in wow, a tax in ffxi on all items sold the system works if you used it you would know.

    by the way i missed nothing what i see is a bunch of lazy players refusing to utilize the system in game to earn gil.
    Nobody's ignoring how to make personal gil. But that's the point you're refusing to understand. Market Board-generated gil is PERSONAL gil.

    What this thread is about isn't about making personal gil. It's about ensuring that the economy has a healthy revenue on a macro level. It's absurd to insult people when you don't understand what this thread is really about. Hint: the majority of people in here who are concerned about the overall gil generation for the game aren't people who have ANY problems with personal gil generation.

    Edit: It's the height of irony that you call out "lazy players" while being so intellectually lazy that you not only refuse to understand the problem people are talking about but also refuse to even grasp the most basic of economic terms when explained clearly.

    Unless someone can flat out show that the total amount of Gil gained by all players leveling and doing Leve's is less then what goes to the Gil sinks, then I can't see why there would be a short flow of Gil.
    There's a quote from Yoshi-P on this very thread that states exactly that.
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    Last edited by Orsnoire; 10-03-2013 at 10:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orsnoire View Post
    There's a quote from Yoshi-P on this very thread that states exactly that.
    I can't seem to find it.

    The only Dev posting I can think of that comes close to this was:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hvinire View Post
    Making your gil work for you

    We can certainly understand that teleportation costs make it difficult to manage your gil and that the cost of living can be high in general. The other day the team decreased the repair cost and price for dark matter (as covered in Camate's post) but we'll continue to look into adjusting income expenses in an effort to continually balance the economy.

    We don't have any particular details right now, but we're looking through your feedback while investigating this matter and appreciate your continued feedback as you explore and live in Eorzea.
    Do you have an idea where I can find the one from Yoshi? This one was before the repair changes and does very little to prove what I asked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Codek View Post
    I can't seem to find it.

    Do you have an idea where I can find the one from Yoshi? This one was before the repair changes and does very little to prove what I asked.
    It's not a dev posting. It's a posted link to an interview, and you can find it yourself. Further, you're entitled to hold any opinion you wish. The facts are, however, that gil generation in general is too low (particularly owing to the fact that the only reason it's not a negative flow already is because of the influx from folks finishing their one-offs from quests).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Codek View Post

    Do you have an idea where I can find the one from Yoshi? This one was before the repair changes and does very little to prove what I asked.
    Here ya go.. Read it up and it will be near the bottom. This was an interview translated from Reinheart and was posted 9/18/13, so fairly recently.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...86#post1290186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiz_Cineris View Post
    Here ya go.. Read it up and it will be near the bottom. This was an interview translated from Reinheart and was posted 9/18/13, so fairly recently.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...86#post1290186
    thank you, much appreciated!
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