Post Your Solution For Gil Generation

[Jay_Green]

I have 50 Armourer and 50 Blacksmith. I have made over 500k gil making large amounts of Darksteel Nuggets. I buy the Ore needed to make the Nuggets and I make as many Nuggets as I can. My Profitable gain becomes greater and greater every time I do this as I invest all of my batch profits to my next bigger batch. The only issues I have ever had with this method is the notorious Under-Cutters.

[davidbowie]

I don't want to craft or gather Give it to me, i want it now why should i have to craft i like sitting on my mount all day it's not fair why should i have to work in a mmo to earn gil what a crock of crap.

if square enix gives in to these people I will cancel my sub and so will all my friends i brought with me from other mmo's if you can't take the time to craft to earn some money then don't complain and don't play mmo's.

In WoW i crafted AND made Tons of Gold
In FFxi i crafted and made tons of Gil
In Swtor i crafted and made tons of credits


stop acting like a spoiled rich kid and get off your arse and get a tradeskill this is not a welfare system game.

The steps to making gil

hit level 10 choose a trade/field craft in the nation you are currently in once you get airship pass get the other trades does not mean you have to do them but why not you might like them the benefits of doing trades lv 20/25 and up you can meld and repair your own gear that saves you a ton of money play smart and you will enjoy game more in the long run.

[Starfox71rt]

I think you missed the point entirely. Whether or not someone crafts/gathers to increase their personal wealth is not the issue at stake here. The only way to GENERATE gil by crafting is either completing leves (ok) or npc-ing the products (bad). Selling wares on the market board only moves gil from one person to the next (and actually REMOVES gil from the economy via tax).

[davidbowie]

I think you missed the point entirely. Whether or not someone crafts/gathers to increase their personal wealth is not the issue at stake here. The only way to GENERATE gil by crafting is either completing leves (ok) or npc-ing the products (bad). Selling wares on the market board only moves gil from one person to the next (and actually REMOVES gil from the economy via tax).

Baloney you see people in here stating how to make gil, and choose to ignore it, hogwash the market is just like the auction house which you see in wow and many other mmo's.
lazy players use that excuse you are wrong and this system is not new it works just the few of you refuse to use not square enix fault or the players who play game the way it was designed just because you think it is.

ah fee in wow, a tax in ffxi on all items sold the system works if you used it you would know.

by the way i missed nothing what i see is a bunch of lazy players refusing to utilize the system in game to earn gil.

[Orsnoire]

Baloney you see people in here stating how to make gil, and choose to ignore it, hogwash the market is just like the auction house which you see in wow and many other mmo's.
lazy players use that excuse you are wrong and this system is not new it works just the few of you refuse to use not square enix fault or the players who play game the way it was designed just because you think it is.

ah fee in wow, a tax in ffxi on all items sold the system works if you used it you would know.

by the way i missed nothing what i see is a bunch of lazy players refusing to utilize the system in game to earn gil.

Nobody's ignoring how to make personal gil. But that's the point you're refusing to understand. Market Board-generated gil is PERSONAL gil.

What this thread is about isn't about making personal gil. It's about ensuring that the economy has a healthy revenue on a macro level. It's absurd to insult people when you don't understand what this thread is really about. Hint: the majority of people in here who are concerned about the overall gil generation for the game aren't people who have ANY problems with personal gil generation.

Edit: It's the height of irony that you call out "lazy players" while being so intellectually lazy that you not only refuse to understand the problem people are talking about but also refuse to even grasp the most basic of economic terms when explained clearly.

Unless someone can flat out show that the total amount of Gil gained by all players leveling and doing Leve's is less then what goes to the Gil sinks, then I can't see why there would be a short flow of Gil.

There's a quote from Yoshi-P on this very thread that states exactly that.

[Codek]

There's a quote from Yoshi-P on this very thread that states exactly that.

I can't seem to find it.

The only Dev posting I can think of that comes close to this was:

Making your gil work for you

We can certainly understand that teleportation costs make it difficult to manage your gil and that the cost of living can be high in general. The other day the team decreased the repair cost and price for dark matter (as covered in Camate's post) but we'll continue to look into adjusting income expenses in an effort to continually balance the economy.

We don't have any particular details right now, but we're looking through your feedback while investigating this matter and appreciate your continued feedback as you explore and live in Eorzea.

Do you have an idea where I can find the one from Yoshi? This one was before the repair changes and does very little to prove what I asked.

[Orsnoire]

I can't seem to find it.

Do you have an idea where I can find the one from Yoshi? This one was before the repair changes and does very little to prove what I asked.

It's not a dev posting. It's a posted link to an interview, and you can find it yourself. Further, you're entitled to hold any opinion you wish. The facts are, however, that gil generation in general is too low (particularly owing to the fact that the only reason it's not a negative flow already is because of the influx from folks finishing their one-offs from quests).

[Raiz_Cineris]

Do you have an idea where I can find the one from Yoshi? This one was before the repair changes and does very little to prove what I asked.

Here ya go.. Read it up and it will be near the bottom. This was an interview translated from Reinheart and was posted 9/18/13, so fairly recently.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...86#post1290186

[Codek]

I think you missed the point entirely. Whether or not someone crafts/gathers to increase their personal wealth is not the issue at stake here. The only way to GENERATE gil by crafting is either completing leves (ok) or npc-ing the products (bad). Selling wares on the market board only moves gil from one person to the next (and actually REMOVES gil from the economy via tax).

Why are we still excluding the market board from Gil generation? Every MMO uses the market as the best means of generating currency (from the players stand point). Yes, you using the market board will not add anything to the economy, but you alone also don't need to make all the Gil that you plan to use in the economy either. The market board is a way to simplify the flow of currency across the servers economy as a whole.

The amount of currency generated by those who level is the defining feature of what fuels the market. Ignoring the new currency from new characters is ignoring the basis of the economy. Your basically ignoring this entire flow of Gil by excluding the market boards entirely.

Unless someone can flat out show that the total amount of Gil gained by all players leveling and doing Leve's is less then what goes to the Gil sinks, then I can't see why there would be a short flow of Gil.

This thread should just be re-named to "How can I make Gil on a dead server?".

And, if your really concerned about a specific servers market, then you can just make a new character!

[Starfox71rt]

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So what's your plan for when the initial launch wave of people are now leveled and the only way they can generate NEW (maybe that will clear it up for you) gil is through leves, npcs, and FATEs? Considering their gil generation as the basis of the economy is just as flawed as not considering it even as a part. I'm not saying new gil isn't helping out. The problem is that eventually new players will not be joining the game at the same rate. And I'm not excluding the flow of Gil from the market boards... What I said was that it doesn't actually increase the server gil total and in fact actually removes gil from the economy.