FFXIV: ARR becoming TORtanic

[Raxion]

sorry to tell you this but a majority of mmo players don't waste time on something as mundane as crafting

The majority doesn't waste their time on something as pointless as PvP either, but you brought that up.

[Juubi]

The majority doesn't waste their time on something as pointless as PvP either, but you brought that up.

Quite the contrary it was only PvP that kept TORtanic afloat longer, not to mention that you're actually interacting aka socializing with other players during PvP instead of scavenging for materials when crafting, crafting is a solo endeavor and on top of that it's not very fun, a majority of players would rather test their mettle against others rather than weave, craft and all those boring stuff.

[Raxion]

Quite the contrary it was only PvP that kept TORtanic afloat longer, not to mention that you're actually interacting aka socializing with other players during PvP instead of scavenging for materials when crafting, crafting is a solo endeavor and on top of that it's not very fun, a majority of players would rather test their mettle against others rather than weave, craft and all those boring stuff.

Well forgive me. I didn't know you were the voice of the majority of MMO gamers....

I couldn't care less about PvP. The only "socializing" that goes on in PvP is along the lines of, "WTF noob ass loser, you couldn't kill that guy?" "Please kill yourself." "STFU noob, I'm in the top 10 on my main" "You guys suck so hard, AFK."

Leveling a craft wasn't "fun" but it was ungodly simple. I got Goldsmith from 1-50 in 2 days by farming leves.

[Juubi]

Well forgive me. I didn't know you were the voice of the majority of MMO gamers....

I couldn't care less about PvP. The only "socializing" that goes on in PvP is along the lines of, "WTF noob ass loser, you couldn't kill that guy?" "Please kill yourself." "STFU noob, I'm in the top 10 on my main" "You guys suck so hard, AFK."

Leveling a craft wasn't "fun" but it was ungodly simple. I got Goldsmith from 1-50 in 2 days by farming leves.

The reality of the current MMO landscape is that an MMO can exist without crafting, but it can not exist without PVP, you said it yourself, crafting wasn't fun, the degree of its simplicity or complexity is irrelevant, the point is that crafting isn't fun and downright boring, Many would rather clash swords with another player than carry a pickaxe

[Raxion]

The reality of the current MMO landscape is that an MMO can exist without crafting, but it can not exist without PVP, you said it yourself, crafting wasn't fun, the degree of its simplicity or complexity is irrelevant, the point is that crafting isn't fun and downright boring, Many would rather clash swords with another player than carry a pickaxe

So because you, personally, don't have the attention-span to level a crafting class, it shouldn't exist at all?

Mind...blown.






You really need to stick to those F2P Korean grind-fests.

[Marael]

The reality of the current MMO landscape is that an MMO can exist without crafting, but it can not exist without PVP, you said it yourself, crafting wasn't fun, the degree of its simplicity or complexity is irrelevant, the point is that crafting isn't fun and downright boring, Many would rather clash swords with another player than carry a pickaxe

Really? Cannot exist without PvP? Well, uh, I've been playing MMOs for about 15 years now AND NEVER PLAYED PVP EVEN ONCE BECAUSE I DONT CARE!!! MMOs can exist without it easily. I don't give a crap about fighting other players, and I don't understand why you think it's so vital to every single MMO in the world, period, the end Mr. "I'm internetjesus you must all agree with me because you are clearly retarded if you don't." And, uh, I kinda enjoy the crafting system of this game. True I haven't done much with it, but it's still fun. Maybe you should give it a try before bashing the hell out of it as if you're internetjesus and everything you say is scripture regardless of your personal inexperience.

[Naberrie]

The reality of the current MMO landscape is that an MMO can exist without crafting, but it can not exist without PVP, you said it yourself, crafting wasn't fun, the degree of its simplicity or complexity is irrelevant, the point is that crafting isn't fun and downright boring, Many would rather clash swords with another player than carry a pickaxe

I hate pvp. I won't play any game, let alone an MMO, that is dependent on it. If FFXIV required pvp I wouldn't play it. I would not rather clash swords with another player. I'd rather craft something.

Don't assume you speak for all of us.

[oda]

The reality of the current MMO landscape is that an MMO can exist without crafting, but it can not exist without PVP, you said it yourself, crafting wasn't fun, the degree of its simplicity or complexity is irrelevant, the point is that crafting isn't fun and downright boring, Many would rather clash swords with another player than carry a pickaxe

Nope. And when has a Final Fantasy title ever been about PVP?

[Noahlimits]

The reality of the current MMO landscape is that an MMO can exist without crafting, but it can not exist without PVP, you said it yourself, crafting wasn't fun, the degree of its simplicity or complexity is irrelevant, the point is that crafting isn't fun and downright boring, Many would rather clash swords with another player than carry a pickaxe

FF11 called, it still exists 1000 years later. And no, 11's PVP isn't real PVP. I don't understand why people who dislike a game so much simply don't quit playing. Yeesh.

So you have the US version of it, not the Japanese version. You know the US version was nerfed heavily because they didn't think the American's could handle the original difficulty. Once again, you failed at comprehension. Your FF2 cartridge is NOT the original hard version of the game. I'm talking about the actual hard version of FFIV.

We actually had the children's EZMODE type in the US. Sad.

[Suirieko]

The reality of the current MMO landscape is that an MMO can exist without crafting, but it can not exist without PVP, you said it yourself, crafting wasn't fun, the degree of its simplicity or complexity is irrelevant, the point is that crafting isn't fun and downright boring, Many would rather clash swords with another player than carry a pickaxe

FFXI existed for 11 years without PVP. Runes of Magic has several PvE dedicated servers, that are highly populated, and still have limited pvp. FFXIV has existed for two+ years without PVP. It can do fine.

Sorry to shock you but MMORPGs don't need PVP to exist. FFXIV will get a very limited form of PVP.

And sorry to say but I am having fun crafting and gathering as much as I love to fight. If you don't believe me, refer to my signature. Two gatherings at 50, one at 40. Three crafts at 50.

So, about how crafting isn't fun...