My WAR & the two aspects to make you tank effectively!

[Lhun]

Not sure what you're saying here. I haven't tested it with Second wind, but I can guarantee for a fact that mantra/convalescence/Wrath V all do zero to buff Thrill of Battle heals (as well as Bloodbath and Inner Beast heals). % bonus heals (or % debuffs like disease) aren't applied to % heals like Lustrate or ToB, nor are they applied to absorb heals which rely exclusively on a portion of damage dealt.

I'm sorry, you're exactly correct about thrill and IB. I've been talking about this for a bit now and I keep getting my ability names confused (on top of no sleep, woo!)

Convalescence/WrathV/Zerk/Unchained absolutely assist Second Wind, however.

[Dhex]

I'm sorry, you're exactly correct about thrill and IB. I've been talking about this for a bit now and I keep getting my ability names confused (on top of no sleep, woo!)

Convalescence/WrathV/Zerk/Unchained absolutely assist Second Wind, however.

Unchained has no effect on Second Wind. Unchained bypasses the -25% Damage penalty incurred by having Defiance active. Defiance does not modify your Attack stat - only your damage output. Second Wind's modification is based on your Attack stat.

[Lhun]

Unchained has no effect on Second Wind. Unchained bypasses the -25% Damage penalty incurred by having Defiance active. Defiance does not modify your Attack stat - only your damage output. Second Wind's modification is based on your Attack stat.

This is correct. It is a heal based on your total attack power stat. I may be incorrect, but I believe the penalty is applied PRE, not POST damage, making it effective, is it not?

[Dhex]

You're not listening. Second Wind is based on Attack in your character's stat window. Unchained removes the -25% damage reduction received from Defiance.

Also you are wrong about Convalescence & Second Wind:



It's entirely predicated by your Attack stat. Unaffected by healing modifiers on Mantra, Convalescence, and Wrath V.

Internal Release, Wrath, and Berserk raise Attack (+50%) and Crit Rate (+25%). Second Wind can critical cure giving a higher value - but it is not modified by +15% Healing from Wrath, +20% from Convalescence, or +5% from Mantra.

Seriously - this takes all of 5 minutes to test and figure out.

[Lhun]

It's entirely predicated by your Attack stat. Unaffected by healing modifiers on Mantra, Convalescence, and Wrath V.

Internal Release, Wrath, and Berserk raise Attack (+50%) and Crit Rate (+25%). Second Wind can critical cure giving a higher value - but it is not modified by +15% Healing from Wrath, +20% from Convalescence, or +5% from Mantra.

Seriously - this takes all of 5 minutes to test and figure out.

You may be hitting a stat floor in your testing currently. This is not the experience I have with this ability. I'll run some tests tonight. Thank you for taking the effort to test this.