Calculated optimal Myth spending for BRDs

[EasymodeX]

I like how your parse indicates that 60% of your total DPS is executed on the GCD and would be accelerated by Skill Speed. Thanks for the clarification.

[Eckoh]

I like how your parse indicates that 60% of your total DPS is executed on the GCD and would be accelerated by Skill Speed. Thanks for the clarification.

actually bards have multiple skills not on the GCD... i only have 39 skill speed. The reason crit is so strong is because dot crits can reset the cooldown on bloodletter which is off the GCD, another reason why skill speed is bad for bards.

Flaming arrow, bloodletter, and misery's end are all off the GCD so that further devalues crt as we are not bound by the GCD when using them.

Also if you look a large portion of my damage i based on my dots which are not at all effected by skill speed which yet again makes it a bad stat. There is no argument you can amke that will ever change the math that states skill speed is terrible and pretty much a useless stat for bards. It carries 0 weight as a stat.

whats the reasoning why 9 dex and 34 skill speed doesn't beat 3 crit rate and 18 determination? (allagan cuirass vs HQ gryphonskin with capped crit and determination (27/18)
but i guess bards are a bit special with barrage and bloodletter

the difference in them is marginal at best.
The only thing you will gain is the dex which is nice, but its still mostly a side grade with that chest, and why bank on getting a rare drop when for a few hundred thousand gill you can simply make something that is basically equal?

That way you do not have to hope that item drops and they are still both vastly worse then the AF2 chest but with the gryphon chest you can get things like the belt and +1 relic sooner which are great upgrades then going from gryphon chest to AF2 chest.

When min maxing you want the best you can get as soon as possible within reason. The gryphon chest is one of the cheaper crafting items only needing 9 animal fat so there is no reason not to get it and meld it into a better then darklight chest and marginally different DPS wise then the coil chest.

[EasymodeX]

actually bards have multiple skills not on the GCD...

Do those multiple skills add up to 40% of your damage output? That's a lot! No wonder skill speed rates so low.

The reason crit is so strong is because dot crits can reset the cooldown on bloodletter which is off the GCD,

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Also if you look a large portion of my damage i based on my dots which are not at all effected by skill speed

Fascinating. Are you sure your DOTs aren't affected by skill speed? Can't you cast your DOTs sooner if you have higher skill speed?

[Eckoh]

Do those multiple skills add up to 40% of your damage output? That's a lot! No wonder skill speed rates so low.



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Fascinating. Are you sure your DOTs aren't affected by skill speed? Can't you cast your DOTs sooner if you have higher skill speed?

dots have an 18 second duration which is not speed up by skills speed so they is no bonus to them. Blood letter is off the GCD so skill speed again has no effect. Misery's end off the GCD.. the dots plus bloodletter and Misery's end did 37128 of that 103623 damage parse, which is nearly 40%.

River of blood is an archer trait that makes it so when Venomous Bit or Windbit crit there is a 50% chance that Bloodletter's cooldown is reset. There is no limit to how often that can happen.

Awesome. With 65 skill speed I can see how you adroitly manage either a 92% uptime on your DOTs if you use 6 GCDs of filler in between them (consuming 14.61 seconds), or you clip them by 1 tick. Which approach did you choose to achieve that much DPS?

there is MUCH more to it then that. Sometimes you clip sometimes you let them fall off because of cooldowns. Bards have 5 different DPS cooldowns that manage while doing everything else. Dots in this game take a snapshot of your stats when they are applied. So you want as much power on them as possible. So you let the dots with +40% damage on them tick all the way off where as you will clip the ones that you put up when you had a mana song going as soon as you turn off mana song.

There is no cut and dry of it. To be a top end bard there is so much micro managment you do just for your skills to do the most damage while making sure you healers have mana before they are calling out for it while using the songs for a short of a period as possible.

That parse was from one of teh easy runs, when my group sells titan we normally 1 heal it so we can carry 2 people at a time. So i manage the WHMs mana while still topping the chart damage wise. People constantly say bards are so simple, well any window licker can play any class in this game but there is a VAST difference in what any player in a top 5 world guild and some random pug you see ginding fate will do.

[EasymodeX]

dots have an 18 second duration

Awesome. With 65 skill speed I can see how you adroitly manage either a 92% uptime on your DOTs if you use 6 GCDs of filler in between them (consuming 14.61 seconds), or you clip them by 1 tick. Which approach did you choose to achieve that much DPS?

[Pellegri]

Awesome. With 65 skill speed I can see how you adroitly manage either a 92% uptime on your DOTs if you use 6 GCDs of filler in between them (consuming 14.61 seconds), or you clip them by 1 tick. Which approach did you choose to achieve that much DPS?

Dear dumbass I will say this again, bards do not have a choice between gear with SS and another stat and gear with SS and acc. The reason why SS is as worthless as it is is because it is paired with acc almost all the time, which unlike dragoons bards do not even have to try to get capped. So you can keep praising SS all you want(even though you do not have a bard) but at the end of the day even if SS was worth mentioning the fact that it is paired with acc which is a 100% wasted stat after having it on more than half our gear means you get gear that you will have wasted stats on(the acc), where as any other piece without acc on it does not have SS either.

Sure I could gimp myself and get full SS gear just to make SS look good but then i'd be losing out on far more than just secondary stats.