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    PessimiStick's Avatar
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    Ippon Seionage
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 63
    I just... I feel like I'm on the WoW forums all over again. Someone is posting with math and logic, and people are just raging and going on tangents left and right, completely missing the point and utterly failing at refuting it. It also appears that Eckoh's sarcasm detector is broken, maybe he should be gearing for that instead...
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    Eckoh Saotome
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by PessimiStick View Post
    I just... I feel like I'm on the WoW forums all over again. Someone is posting with math and logic, and people are just raging and going on tangents left and right, completely missing the point and utterly failing at refuting it. It also appears that Eckoh's sarcasm detector is broken, maybe he should be gearing for that instead...
    are ignorant or trolling?? because everything his "spreadsheet" shows have been disproven with lengthy explanations.
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    Pellegri Testament
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 50
    Math and logic that have no merit when it is impossible to reach the stats needed to see a noticeable difference over other secondary stats. Please look at our ilvl 90 bard gear and show just exactly how many pieces of it have SS and a secondary stat other than acc......because outside of a single piece or 2 they simply do not exist. There is no "just take the SS and acc gear" when so much of our gear is loaded with it by the time anyone even gets in coil as a bard all they'll want to do is get rid of it, it's bad when full DL gear puts us more than 60 acc over the cap and there is nothing we can do about it other than spend myth tomes or start getting coil drops.

    If we could get a meaningful amount of SS without getting acc on the gear then sure it may be worth mentioning, but that is impossible with current drops and myth items. Putting weight on SS without playing the class or knowing about the stats on our gear isn't giving anything more than bad information.
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    Last edited by Pellegri; 09-26-2013 at 06:34 AM.

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    Dort Helper
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    Hyperion
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    Ninja Lv 60
    welp, Eckoh's gear and parses have won me over. I'm gonna see if I can squeeze some more crit in
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    Chance Skeleton
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    Famfrit
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    Lancer Lv 34
    This dude has a level 8 archer. Are you guys seriously going to listen to his numbers? There are so many variables when it comes to maximizing Bard DPS. The weighting is arbitrary at best.
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    Pellegri's Avatar
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    Pellegri Testament
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ChanceSkeleton View Post
    This dude has a level 8 archer. Are you guys seriously going to listen to his numbers? There are so many variables when it comes to maximizing Bard DPS. The weighting is arbitrary at best.
    Ya kinda noticed that one after my last post where more than half of his posts have just been trolling various threads. Felt derpy a little after noticing I've been arguing with nothing more than a troll that can pull numbers from other peoples post and call them his own.
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    Pomf Pomf
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 50
    dam, when i read this thread, i have to re-read it again 2 times because the similar avatars make me confuse who is saying what.

    btw i had for a for the lulz ss set with 152 SS and it only reduce 0.12s on cd. So SS is a dump
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    Last edited by Sterob; 09-26-2013 at 10:40 PM.

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    EasymodeX's Avatar
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    52ss actually dropped your GCD by 0.12? That's a lot more than I gave it credit for.
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 50
    mistyped, it is 152 instead of 52, 4 slot materia each armour part.
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    Mugy Silkwood
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 60
    Would getting the Hero's Ring of Aiming + Ringbinds for 870 be a better choice than buying the Tights for 825? This is obviously my first Myth spending.
    The upgrade straight from DL is:

    Ring + Gloves = 11 DEX / 37 Crit Chance (ring upgrade from the AK ring)
    Legs = 9 DEX / 34 Crit chance

    Is the 2 DEX and 3 Crit worth the extra 45 tomes?
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