Is this bannable? I got reported for...

[Macka]

This is a bad idea. If you've been reported for botting a GM will send you a tell to see if you're at the computer. If you don't respond, they will likely ban you for it. It's in the ToS you signed.

http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...6&id=5382&la=1
Under the section titled "Activities that destroy game balance":


I added the bold in myself since so many people in this thread are asking about it. Failure to respond to a tell from a GM is a violation.

And I can tell you they DO whisper you if you look like you're botting. A friend of mine has been asked 3 times while leveling crafting and since he's always at the computer he is able to respond and they leave him alone. If you're not paying attention, you may get yourself in trouble.

I have tells, Shouts, and Yells turned off. I use macros for everything I do Fighting, Tanking, fishing, Crafting, and when I start to gather the same I dont have time to get spammed by Bots, or people yelling and shouting for parties, thats what my FC is for.

[AsakuraVN]

I love when SE sends out mixed signals, after 10 years of XI I learned basically this about their ToS 'gray areas'.
Automation is OK, as long as you are NOT away and it does NOT involve the use of 3rd party programs.

Isn't that like... the same with every MMOs? As long as you're still sitting in front of the screen, there's really no way to determine if you're botting, especially when using hardwares that support automated actions. That's why I don't really care that much about bots, as long as they're not teleporting everywhere, doing things a lot faster than everyone else...
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[Reiterpallasch]

Are people seriously suggesting that it's botting to use in game macros? Are you kidding me?

[TrystWildkey]

The point is that the 'player' was not playing. They were not attending their screen, AT ALL. They were unable to respond to anyone, or modify their actions based on changes around them. They. Were. Not. Playing. They had automated their actions to achieve the desired result without their attendance. The game was running, their character was acting, but...

They.
Were.
Not.
Playing.

And that is the point. Whether you want to call it botting, unattended play, using their resources, or anything else. The end result is that they weren't actually playing the game.

[Ninjaii]

Are people seriously suggesting that it's botting to use in game macros? Are you kidding me?

It's not botting to use in-game macros, but it is botting and a 100% bannable offense if u use a 3rd party program or a mouse/controller/keyboard macro button to loop the in-game macros.

[Macka]

It's not botting to use in-game macros, but it is botting and a 100% bannable offense if u use a 3rd party program or a mouse/controller/keyboard macro button to loop the in-game macros.

He dont have it looped he clearly says he hit the macro every time with out looking at the screen. So I figured he is saying he hit the macro every 5 minutes or so. I do the same thing Crafting The only difference I change back to game after each craft and I know Im not a bot even if someone tells me I have Tells turned off dont see what the big deal is I start a craft hit my marco watch tv, change back real fast pick item I want to craft hit macro watch tv.

[HealBus]

Eh NVM: Absentee play is still as ambiguous as ever.

[Yuufarlc]

Who's definition is that? Yours or SE's?

un·at·tend·ed
/ˌənəˈtendid/
Adjective
Not noticed or dealt with: "her behavior went unnoticed and unattended to".
Not supervised or looked after: "it is not acceptable for parents to leave children unattended at that age".

Pretty much THE definition, who? the dictionaries

[JamesX]

wow people keep getting hung up in symantics.

The OP is controlling his character. It doesn't matter how he controls it. He is doing it. It is not botting, nor is it unattended play.

It is like saying if you are blind and you are trying to play that makes it Unattended? and, aside from horrible waste of money on your part, SE will ban you? No it does not.

Unattended means somehow the game is playing itself without you being involved. As long as you are controlling your character - regardless how badly or how well - it is not unattended play.

[Felis]

Thinking about it more it seems alot like botting, setting a macro to auto kill mobs while you watch TV. I do believe that would be considered a bot in a sense. this is a makeshift auto killer and he is asking if letting the Macro run and it killing mobs while he watches TV is ok. I feel like we started arguing the wrong point and did not address if this was botting or not... I keep seeing this as made, an auto killer, left it to kill while i watched TV... I cant get banned for this can I? I am also concerned how he had multiple whispers and such... exactly how long was he running this auto killer.

There is nothing with auto-kill.
/targetenemy
Do this on the L2+X slot
The attack skill on the L2+triangle slot.

While you watch TV, press once L2+X, then maybe 10 times (to be 100% sure) L2+triangle. Then L2+X again. There is nothing automatic in it, except /targetenemy, which don't kill enemies. You can also do this with no target macro. Just with the d-pad to tab to the next enemy.

botting? no way
efficient? no way
possible? yes