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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenarion View Post
    It's not my fault you keep making terrible posts in the active threads.



    Yes, GMs have no tools to investigate things with Devs/GMs don't actually have magic, it still takes a human to use said tools and time to properly investigate and ban bots.

    Maybe the only MMOs you've played were filled with GMs with zero capabilities, but I highly doubt SE is one of them.

    Hell, CCP is a much smaller company than SE, and the GMs there can detect bots just fine - yes, even injections and scripts that you apparently think is undetectable.
    /sigh
    Do bots exist in these game? exactly, FYI SE had made several updates to the 1.0 client to try to stop third party injectors and were always trying to lock down them. the problem is that just like a virus all these have a unique signature. The fact is the inject takes place on the client, that then feeds data to a server. You have no idea what your talking about. I have faith in SE, but this example right here is a person engaging in questionable activity who may be wrongfully accused. no system is perfect. Your failure to even see the point and your lack of understanding. GM's use tools built into the game and not "YOUR" client, they can not go into your client and access anything. so these programs will mostly go undetected. I have decided that from now on, I am just gonna post like you don't exist, as you have little to nothing to really contribute.
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    “Even the finest sword plunged into salt water will eventually rust.”
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  2. #42
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    I like turtles
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noata View Post
    Definition, Unattended - not noticed or dealt with.


    If unattended play is against TOS, he was doing it! I am not saying ban hammer him, but that is breaking the rules... so I guess you could say it is a crime lol.
    you can spin words around it all you want, but in Law they use definitions not objective viewpoints. your statement just further clarified the meeting of the definition of unattended. by all means I would slap him on the wrist, but by no means was it not wrong
    It is not unattended play is he was holding his controller, pressing buttons, and actually playing his character. If I turn away from the screen and am no longer looking at it the entire time while I am still pressing buttons on my controller, it does not automatically become unattended play.
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  4. #44
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    If you have to ask if it's bannable, perhaps you shouldn't be doing it.
    If other people thought you were a bot, got angry and tried to stop you, perhaps you shouldn't be doing it.

    I have to admit, I'm pissed off at you. I play the game as it was intended to be played. I go farm materials that I need to level up my crafts. I don't use macros, bots, or any other cheap trickery to do it. I spent 2 hours the other night trying to farm some HQ fleece so I could finish my level 50 weaving quest. ALL of the sheep camps were farmed to within a millisecond of spawning. My husband, who loves me, and is much more calm than I am, noticed that at least one of them appeared to be botting. He did the same thing other players did to you, until the bot finally died from a sheep. I have no sympathy for you if you get banned. However, I would almost accept it if you only received a warning.

    If you have to wonder if what you're doing is against the rules, you shouldn't be doing it. Period.
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  5. #45
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    Aenarion's Avatar
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    Aenarion Estelvir
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    I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry... but I think I'll stick with laugh.

    Go ahead and keep believing that devs have no way to discern if a 3rd party program was used. In your reality, these things would never have happended:

    http://nosygamer.blogspot.com/2013/0...d-and.html?m=1

    obviously GMs in Eve found the behaviors of characters who weren't even logged in to be questionable, as they didn't respond to convo requests!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by TrystWildkey View Post
    If you have to ask if it's bannable, perhaps you shouldn't be doing it.
    being ignorant or just prudent does not chane what is allowed and what is not.

    If other people thought you were a bot, got angry and tried to stop you, perhaps you shouldn't be doing it.
    that is pretty shaky logic, why should the OP be responsible for other's mistake?

    I have no sympathy for you if you get banned. However, I would almost accept it if you only received a warning.
    If OP actually botted, then I'm right there with you. But since he did not, why should he be punished? And how is using in-game macros cheap? should bards who use macros for their skill rotations be banned too? It's there for every player to use if they want, it's not the OP's fault you decided not to utilize the tools given to you by the devs.
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    Last edited by Aenarion; 09-25-2013 at 02:03 AM.

  6. #46
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    Kyri Sagitta
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrystWildkey View Post
    If you have to ask if it's bannable, perhaps you shouldn't be doing it.
    If other people thought you were a bot, got angry and tried to stop you, perhaps you shouldn't be doing it.
    I have to admit, I'm pissed off at you. I play the game as it was intended to be played. I go farm materials that I need to level up my crafts. I don't use macros, bots, or any other cheap trickery to do it.
    If you have to wonder if what you're doing is against the rules, you shouldn't be doing it. Period.

    This pretty much sums up how I feel about it. I watch movies while I play too, but even when im only half @$$'ing it, I see my tells and would respond if someone called me a bot, unless of course, I was actually botting.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueodAjWZ0A4
    Ah, but will facing north-by-northeast at 2:45 a.m. while the moon is a waning crescent result in a 27% increase in your chances to synthesize HQ mythril ingots!? That is real the question! ~Fernehalwes~

  7. #47
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    If you're using in-game macros and hitting the buttons yourself then I don't think you have anything to worry about.

    I use a macro to do most of my crafting and I hardly look at my screen while doing it. This is essentially the same thing, you just looked at your screen a little less.

    Oh, and if somebody sent me a tell accusing me of botting I probably wouldn't bother responding, if I even noticed it. You're not obligated to answer.
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    Last edited by FrogDog; 09-25-2013 at 02:08 AM.

  8. #48
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    In this thread I see a lot of justification. If your screen is not on you are not playing the game. If you do not understand this ask a three year old and they will set you straight.

    The rest: He pressed macros on a controller, they cannot prove it, such and such was removed... all justification, smoke screen, what ever you want to call it to excuse a bad behavior.

    Game on and you watching = playing.
    Game not visual at long periods of time = not playing.
    Asking to define long periods of time = not playing.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksandr View Post
    In this thread I see a lot of people who thinks they have the right to dictate how other people should play their game within legal boundary
    fixed for you. I don't like to farm for mats, and I think it's nice if people can be courteous while competing for spawns, but at least I recognize it is fully within their right to not give two **** about their competitors.

    The rest: He pressed macros on a controller, they cannot prove it, such and such was removed... all justification, smoke screen, what ever you want to call it to excuse a bad behavior.
    Quote Originally Posted by MaFi0s0 View Post
    By macro I mean ingame macro.
    {Reading Comprehension} {Do you have it?}
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    Last edited by Aenarion; 09-25-2013 at 02:30 AM.

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    Skadi Frostborn
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    So you want me to fish while looking at the screen all time?

    I just lay down and relax listening to the soothing sound and pressing throw or hook depending on sound.
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