Warriors - How to fix our damage mitigation

[Rios-Drakoon]

How many times must it be said that no one gives a shit on how much damage you do? As a tank roll, its your job to stay alive while using as little healer mana as possible. This is much harder to do compared to a paladin.

Thats how it is.

/sign

[Tronic]

Actually you don't need a ton of abilities to heal over 1500 on a regular basis.

Hiir, I've seen you post repeatedly you stack STR over VIT with your attribute points and your darklight accesories. This'll give you a nice heal when you double heal with infuriate, but what do you do for those 60 seconds between infuriates? Bloodbath and Storm's path are a joke given the dmg we sustain in hard battles.

Also, have you killed Titan HM, and what was your HP then?

[HiirNoivl]

I don't know what you're talking about? 60 seconds between infuriates? I'm Infuriated every 10 (with SCH) to 12 (Without SCH).

I really don't know why you think that I can only have a big heal every 60 seconds.

I'm curious if people who make this claim have played WAR at all, or if they're all copy-pasting the same information.

Yes I have killed Titan HM. More than once, as Main Tank.

The first time I killed him, I didn't even have as much gear then and my max HP topped out somewhere around 7200 (with food and ToB).

Now a days I don't bother with food until the heart is shattered, because most parties can't even get to the heart phase much less get past it, and eating the food was a waste of gil and materials.

[Tronic]

I don't know what you're talking about? 60 seconds between infuriates? I'm Infuriated every 10 (with SCH) to 12 (Without SCH).

I said double heal with infuriate (as in the lvl 50 skill "infuriate"), not being "infuriateD" every 60 seconds O.o.

How can you be infuriated every 12 seconds? You can do it once by popping berzerk and vengeance between gcd's and doing 1 & 2/3 rotations in 12.5 seconds, but then you can only get infuriated every 20 seconds after that (2 & 2/3 rotations for 5 wrath stacks without those CDs)

How does SCH allow you to get infuriated in one less gcd? This sounds interesting.

[Hachiko]

I don't know what you're talking about? 60 seconds between infuriates? I'm Infuriated every 10 (with SCH) to 12 (Without SCH).

This is literally impossible. I'm assuming you mean inner beast, and the fastest you can inner beast is 8 GCDs which is 20 seconds. Probably slightly less with an obscene amount of skill speed (like 18 or 19).

[Faction]

I don't know what you're talking about? 60 seconds between infuriates? I'm Infuriated every 10 (with SCH) to 12 (Without SCH).

Lol? No you're not. Simply building up 5 wrath stacks takes at absolute minimum 8 global cooldowns, which is 20 seconds.

[Kitru]

I don't know what you're talking about? 60 seconds between infuriates? I'm Infuriated every 10 (with SCH) to 12 (Without SCH).

First off, the status condition from Wrath V is Infuriated and Infuriate is the 60 second CD that immediately gives you 5 Wrath stacks. Infuriate is brought up because it's the only time that Inner Beast can be used without any negative side effects.

Getting back to your Infuriated timetable, care to explain exactly how you manage this? It takes 7-8 GCDs to become Infuriated from 0 Wrath stacks: 2 3 part combos and 1 2 part combo (if you go into it while you're partway into a combo already, you reduce the GCDs required by 1). Apparently you're packing a 1.5 second GCD normally and a 1.25 second GCD when a SCH is around (which presumes that the SCH is bringing Selene rather than Eos, but that buff can only be maintained 50% of the time so you're once again applying a 100% uptime to an ability without one; btw, Fey Light is a 30% skill speed increase which would give you a 1.05 second GCD with your numbers which is 8.4 seconds to get Infuriate). Either that or you don't realize that the GCD in ARR is 2.5 seconds and aren't paying any attention at all.

Seriously, every time you start bringing up numbers, you show that nothing you say is reliable. You keep shoving your foot in your mouth and, out of sheer stubbornness, shove it further in as if you could somehow *not* look like more of an idiot.

[Surfie]

Remember, Hiri is the same guy who said that Warriors do 3x the damage of Paladins based off of one Paladin he met, and that putting 20 attribute points into str doubles his DPS even though putting 30 points into str only increases your weapond dmg by about 5.

[oceanlord]

Remember, Hiri is the same guy who said that Warriors do 3x the damage of Paladins based off of one Paladin he met, and that putting 20 attribute points into str doubles his DPS even though putting 30 points into str only increases your weapond dmg by about 5.

lol

is there an ignore feature here? should really stop reading hiir post, full of bs and crap

[Wyndam]

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Yo, I ran into posting limits the other day when I was taking part in the discussion and couldn't make the request then. Would you please remove my quote from your signature? I feel like I can't continue to take part in the discussion with that there. Too, it was not meant to be taken as an eternal endorsement of everything you say but rather that you had valid points in the specific part of the discussion occurring at the time. I would like to be free to disagree with you in the future and not be seen as your crony.