Patch 2.1 - Leaving Group Penalty

[ufufu]

If you are under-geared for a fight, that should be something you experience, and then come back to. It should not be left to trolls who join and leave, or join and do nothing.

Here's the thing: if you or multiple people are under-geared you're going to cause your party to wipe, which, really, is wasting everyone's time. What is an individual player who is properly geared and properly prepared for the fight supposed to do? Keep trying (and wiping) with the undergeared players until the timer runs out? It's easier and takes less time - for everyone involved - for people to just leave.

This should also apply to joining parties in the field.

And that's totally insane.

[KisaiTenshi]

Here's the thing: if you or multiple people are under-geared you're going to cause your party to wipe, which, really, is wasting everyone's time. What is an individual player who is properly geared and properly prepared for the fight supposed to do? Keep trying (and wiping) with the undergeared players until the timer runs out? It's easier and takes less time - for everyone involved - for people to just leave.

That is not your responsibility as the tank. Your responsibility as the tank is to prevent the other players from taking damage. The only person that needs a "gear check" is the tank. If the rest of the players are under-geared you're not going to solve it by leaving and rejoining. How are people supposed to get the gear if you keep abandoning them in the first place?

Ok wiping on ifrit is just pathetic I have seen it done by 7 people all fresh original AF gear. I'm sorry if people don't look into boss fights like these via the wiki or youtube but some people myself included hate spending a hour on what should be a 20 minute fight. Being new and just completely unprepared are different and it's normally unprepared people that makes us leave. It's not elitist it's just not enjoying wasting time with repeated deaths or just not having time for teaching the fight at the moment.

The Primal fights are different. If you can't win, then you're not prepared.
The following things should not be required to play a game:
a) Strategy guides
b) Wiki's
c) youtube
d) google/bing/etc

Everything you need to play the game should be provided by the game's content. Nowhere in the game does it say you can only play a Primal by having all your gear crafted/materia or Unique/materia upgraded. If such were required, then the game would simply not allow you to join in the first place. You can in theory join a dungeon with no gear but your weapon, but you're unlikely to complete it. Gear is not taken into consideration when doing dungeon instances or FATE's. You do realize that the game not only Sync's your level, but it syncs your gear too right? There's no point in trying to go in over-geared when the game doesn't permit you to.