FATES need a nerf

[Moontide]

Moontide, I don't think you understand that there are no other viable options for leveling up.(Snip)

(stuff about how hard it is to do it with second class)

You are both attacking my personal preference without touching the fact that it's an easy and unchallenging bit where only the speed of tagging monsters counts.
For the leveling speed opinion: I do understand about the scarcity of the content. I've played MMOs back when it wasn't necessarily a smooth quest ride from the bottom to the top. Pausing to look for options about things to do is when I've found the most fun during MMOs though. Having to look at your options instead of "Do this one thing only" makes the virtual world feel more like... well, a virtual world.

The main issue is the brainlessness, exploitation, class unbalance, gear irrelevance and easiness, not the exact XP value. Those are the things that need to change regardless of my own preference about leveling speed.

[Tolmos]

I've played MMOs back when it wasn't necessarily a smooth quest ride from the bottom to the top. Pausing to look for options about things to do is when I've found the most fun during MMOs though. Having to look at your options instead of "Do this one thing only" makes the virtual world feel more like... well, a virtual world.

Ok, let's consider our options for leveling a second/third/fourth class atm:

Mindlessly grind mobs alone
Mindlessly grind mobs in groups
Mindlessly grind low level dungeons
Mindlessly grind fates

Yep, you're right- that was loads of fun!

It sounds to me like you have nostalgia goggles on. I've been MMOing since Ultima came out in '97, and I can assure you that I remember just how crappy mob grinding was in Everquest, XI and Aion. FATEs are just fine as they are. Dungeons need a boost to put them on par with FATEs (which would make them the superior options, since they also offer money and items). Neither needs a nerf.

[Moontide]

(tl,dr: Dungeons need boost FATE should stay as it is.)

You can't deny about FATEs not being the most mindless out of the options provided at the moment though. They teach very little about your class. And you missed battleleves completely from the options. Those need a huge boost from what they are now. Something tells me that they were supposed to be the thing to grind or at least use until you don't dare to spend your levies anymore once you're out of normal quests.

My personal pet peeve with FATEs is still the fact that in larger groups people get huge rewards for very little effort. Call that me wanting a difficulty buff / effort nerf at least if you want.

And I still stand with my slower leveling speed preference. You're free to disagree of course.