Quote Originally Posted by Asmodeus View Post
Maybe for Neverwinter, I threw that one in there because it's recent, but STO did not start off as a F2P game neither did DDO or Swtor etc etc and look where those have gone.


Like I said there will always be someone to say it's not p2w to them because it is just XYZ but to another that XYZ may be p2w. For example if your the kind that wants to enjoy owning every type of pet or mount yet some are cash shop only it then becomes p2w for that type of player.

For me if I pay a sub it's because I want to have access to ALL the CONTENT available with out being nickle and dimed, that includes things like storage, pets, mounts, cosmetics etc etc. IF any of this not available via my monthly sub then wth am I paying for?If I am going to have to pay via a cash shop for these things even though I am already paying a monthly sub they might as well turn this into a f2p game because that is what it will be in my eyes no matter how it is worded or how they try to "spin it" to me.You know some f2p cash shop games start out okay but they all gth eventually and worse thing is they use the same excuse that the items are not necessary to play the game or complete it etc, it's only for "convenience". -Slippery Slope

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I agree with this completely. Maybe I want access to all the mounts and pets in the game, and everything cosmetic. :P I shouldn't have to pay real money for it. This is a subscription game, and it's why I prefer subscription games.

Maybe they could offer a bottle of fantasia every 3-4 months or something with the veteran rewards. That way you get what you want, and so do I. :P