Sell Fantasia on the Mogstation

[Asmodeus]

the thing with the games you listed is that none of them are actually P2P games -- they've been marketed as F2P cash shop from the get-go. you say you never played wow and that's kind of ironic, as that game is probably the closest example of a cash shop done right, where the only items it offers are cosmetic things that have zero effect on gameplay. selling character recustomization is completely harmless and isn't going to all of a sudden lead to B2W. it might lead to mounts/minions you can buy with real cash, but nothing significant to your gameplay experience. this isn't a f2p MMO so the devs don't need to nickle and dime you with some mandatory cash shop -- they're already getting their subscriber's money each month.

Maybe for Neverwinter, I threw that one in there because it's recent, but STO did not start off as a F2P game neither did DDO or Swtor etc etc and look where those have gone.


Like I said there will always be someone to say it's not p2w to them because it is just XYZ but to another that XYZ may be p2w. For example if your the kind that wants to enjoy owning every type of pet or mount yet some are cash shop only it then becomes p2w for that type of player.

For me if I pay a sub it's because I want to have access to ALL the CONTENT available with out being nickle and dimed, that includes things like storage, pets, mounts, cosmetics etc etc. IF any of this not available via my monthly sub then wth am I paying for?

If I am going to have to pay via a cash shop for these things even though I am already paying a monthly sub they might as well turn this into a f2p game because that is what it will be in my eyes no matter how it is worded or how they try to "spin it" to me.

You know some f2p cash shop games start out okay but they all gth eventually and worse thing is they use the same excuse that the items are not necessary to play the game or complete it etc, it's only for "convenience". -Slippery Slope

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