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  1. #151
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    Hmm.. After thinking about it, before/if they add this, SE should give 2.0's their free phials first.

    We should all be on equal footing before they start adding additional services.
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldSerenade View Post
    Hmm.. After thinking about it, before/if they add this, SE should give 2.0's their free phials first.

    We should all be on equal footing before they start adding additional services.
    That was my guess, that a service like this might not roll around until 2.1 's barber shop. So that everyone will have used or considered using their Fantasia. That'd be November/December.
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    I agree, TC. A buyable Fantasia potion would be amazing.
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  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asmodeus View Post
    Maybe for Neverwinter, I threw that one in there because it's recent, but STO did not start off as a F2P game neither did DDO or Swtor etc etc and look where those have gone.


    Like I said there will always be someone to say it's not p2w to them because it is just XYZ but to another that XYZ may be p2w. For example if your the kind that wants to enjoy owning every type of pet or mount yet some are cash shop only it then becomes p2w for that type of player.

    For me if I pay a sub it's because I want to have access to ALL the CONTENT available with out being nickle and dimed, that includes things like storage, pets, mounts, cosmetics etc etc. IF any of this not available via my monthly sub then wth am I paying for?If I am going to have to pay via a cash shop for these things even though I am already paying a monthly sub they might as well turn this into a f2p game because that is what it will be in my eyes no matter how it is worded or how they try to "spin it" to me.You know some f2p cash shop games start out okay but they all gth eventually and worse thing is they use the same excuse that the items are not necessary to play the game or complete it etc, it's only for "convenience". -Slippery Slope

    YOMV
    I agree with this completely. Maybe I want access to all the mounts and pets in the game, and everything cosmetic. :P I shouldn't have to pay real money for it. This is a subscription game, and it's why I prefer subscription games.

    Maybe they could offer a bottle of fantasia every 3-4 months or something with the veteran rewards. That way you get what you want, and so do I. :P
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  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaImagine View Post
    I agree with this completely. Maybe I want access to all the mounts and pets in the game, and everything cosmetic. :P I shouldn't have to pay real money for it. This is a subscription game, and it's why I prefer subscription games.

    Maybe they could offer a bottle of fantasia every 3-4 months or something with the veteran rewards. That way you get what you want, and so do I. :P
    Yet they still charge for world transfers.

    I can guarantee that the price is there as a premium (yet optional) service, it really doesn't cost Square Enix anything near the amount they charge to transfer servers, as such a small volume of data from one server to another, not even in labour or administration costs would hit even a 20th if that amount.
    That's why they would use a cash exchange to reduce the frequency of people buying and using them, adding a cool down to it would help as well.

    "Oh dear it's £20 a bottle, I'd better think this through carefully".
    Square Enix gain money whilst remaining a degree of consistency in world, as people simply won't pay for a service like this every week.


    Ingame items are easily to obtain, and seeing as these Phials were meant to be a 'one off' thing, I only realistically see them adding it as a charges service.

    If it was an ingame item, I'd be over the moon, but it'd never happen.


    (However this is my opinion not fact)
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    Last edited by Shioban; 09-20-2013 at 07:46 PM.

  6. #156
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    please implement this square!
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  7. #157
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    I'd gladly grind for more of these :P I have already used both.

    Probably Grand Company seals would be best? just like the stat reset 10k/piece sounds reasonable. It's easy but not that easy, plus you can only have one at a time.
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  8. #158
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    Well I'd like to use one now.
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    On the one hand, the slippery slope principle is a sad truth that people fall for constantly, all the while disgustingly insisting that there's no such thing.

    But a highly restricted yet available means of obtaining something like this wouldn't be a bad thing. As suggested prior-no less than $20, month-long cooldown, etc. Enough that the option is available, but no one would ever waste time or resources pursuing it unless they absolutely wanted to.

    Besides, Square Enix has a long history of unfinished ventures. They added jack to *PlayOnline after launching it, and all the of Play Arts/Trading Arts/Monster Collections fall grossly short of encompassing as much as they could. In this case, it does them good; if they opened a cash shop with this one item, chances are they wouldn't slide down that slope.

    *Granted, PlayOnline was largely unpopular, but I liked it. Several years later Steam comes out and does largely the same thing, and it's a smash hit, but leaves me wary.
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  10. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesruglia View Post
    On the one hand, the slippery slope principle is a sad truth that people fall for constantly, all the while disgustingly insisting that there's no such thing.

    But a highly restricted yet available means of obtaining something like this wouldn't be a bad thing. As suggested prior-no less than $20, month-long cooldown, etc. Enough that the option is available, but no one would ever waste time or resources pursuing it unless they absolutely wanted to.

    Besides, Square Enix has a long history of unfinished ventures. They added jack to *PlayOnline after launching it, and all the of Play Arts/Trading Arts/Monster Collections fall grossly short of encompassing as much as they could. In this case, it does them good; if they opened a cash shop with this one item, chances are they wouldn't slide down that slope.

    *Granted, PlayOnline was largely unpopular, but I liked it. Several years later Steam comes out and does largely the same thing, and it's a smash hit, but leaves me wary.
    It was unpopular because it was hideously slow and cumbersome, those memory constraints for loading in data made it EXCRUCIATINGLY slow.

    But back on track, I agree. $20 or in and around would be perfect. Just a simple optional service, no fuss, no frill, nothing extra.
    Just what we want.
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