Poll: Yea This Again...

[Rentahamster]

Quick and easy fix - keep the wards system as it is now, and just add one thing: The ability to buy items direct from the search menu if you want.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...earch-counter?

[Vackashken]

Still not one good excuse in favor of the market wards other than impulse shopping. Forget convenience then, if we`re talking ideal this is nowhere near ideal. Humanity is built on ideal. Everything we make we make efficiently because its ideal, the only thing that holds us back is the economy so our efficiency is only held back by the economy. Since the ÀH counter Vs. Wards isn`t affected by RL economy, and wouldn`t affect in game economy if `done properly, there is no reason not to go for the most efficient method.

Lets not forget the fact (which is even more detrimental) that this has once again pigeonholed the populace into Ul Dah. If you want to buy something, where do you have to go? Ul Dah, making the other cities even more redundant then they already are.

Aside from the absurdity of having to zone floor to floor to buy simple things I have to go to Ul Dah on top of it if I want anything. People who actually believe this system is superior are zealots. My rose-tinted classes didn't come with my collectors edition, I kinda feel like I am missing out of heralding this junk regardless of how clunky and inefficient it is.

[Mack]

Quick and easy fix - keep the wards system as it is now, and just add one thing: The ability to buy items direct from the search menu if you want.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...earch-counter?

So once again, what`s the point exactly, I would still, as the seller, have to go to the proper ward to fill up my retainer`s bazaar when I can do that at a counter too. There is no ``if you want`` because in reality say we get BOTH an AH counter and a MW, 99% of the people will flock over to the AH counter because its more convenient and straight to the point.

[Rentahamster]

So once again, what`s the point exactly, I would still, as the seller, have to go to the proper ward to fill up my retainer`s bazaar when I can do that at a counter too. There is no ``if you want`` because in reality say we get BOTH an AH counter and a MW, 99% of the people will flock over to the AH counter because its more convenient and straight to the point.

The "point" is to give the players who want it, the ability to buy stuff quicker without having to run back and forth all the time.

It's also to appease the other players who actually want to run back and forth all the time, for whatever reason.

Yes, supplying your retainer would still require manual interaction, but that's why I only called it a "quick fix"

[ObeiKinstar]

When convenience doesn`t break the rules it should be welcome, I don`t get your logic.





Funny how you never gave a good excuse in favor. When I`m the one making the argument and I`m the only who has given any good excuse for the wards, you have nothing.




Just no for the sake of no I guess. No, why exactly.

If they made it so you logged on and were r50 that wouldnt be breaking the rules

I did give a reason:

I don't find any part of the wards system to be a hassle. Also I think the wards are much nicer and more pleasant than walking up to a counter for extra convenience.

I said NO, gave reason with logic, so I dont see how that is a NO for the sake of NO but my answer is still NO

But if you need more from me, the market wards are personable, sometimes i will see someone buying from my retainer while I'm there and I can chat with them or offer them a deal. I like being able to physically walk through the ward and see all the different ppl selling items it give the game more immersion for me. I like how you can set any price for your items and have a chance for it to sell even if its not the lowest price. People get familiar with whose retainers are whose. I like this, just another thing that makes it more personable. I don't want to go to a counter and instantly have all my items sent to me or whatever, I like going to the retainer seeing what I'm buying, then making the purchase.

[viion]

So once again, what`s the point exactly, I would still, as the seller, have to go to the proper ward to fill up my retainer`s bazaar when I can do that at a counter too. There is no ``if you want`` because in reality say we get BOTH an AH counter and a MW, 99% of the people will flock over to the AH counter because its more convenient and straight to the point.

They are changing it so you dont have to go to the ward, you can just go to bell and call retainer and place him back in wards.

The only reason I prefer wards is because its a little more interactivity, I get to run to a character, hunt the seller down! Little tedious sure but I BARELY go to the wards so I guess It never bothers me, if I was buying shards all time sure but I buy 10k and lasts me a while. And i've not paid for gear in a long, long time.

[Kallera]

Lets not forget the fact (which is even more detrimental) that this has once again pigeonholed the populace into Ul Dah. If you want to buy something, where do you have to go? Ul Dah, making the other cities even more redundant then they already are.

Aside from the absurdity of having to zone floor to floor to buy simple things I have to go to Ul Dah on top of it if I want anything. People who actually believe this system is superior are zealots. My rose-tinted classes didn't come with my collectors edition, I kinda feel like I am missing out of heralding this junk regardless of how clunky and inefficient it is.

NO to the AH.

The AH caused similar problems in Jeuno and later Whitegate in FFXI. And the same fix can be applied.

The marlet wards should be expanded. Along with ways to discern HQ items and personal retainer price history.

Or, have stands be outside of the MW, such as camps and outside cities.

[Nabiri]

NO

I would like to see some solutions to fix ward crowding and get people to spread out to other city wards, perhaps by linking them if they can. I want to see further improvement on wards before they even think about an AH. I mean, try all that they can before giving up on it as a lost cause. Also other improvements like saying in the search log if an item is +1, 2, or 3.
I don't feel they've tried all they can to make the wards better yet. I don't feel it's time to give up. They've improved so much already.

But if the wards don't work out and we end up having to have an auction house I'm not going to be upset about it.


And this:

Nope. Because all the features that people are asking for from an AH can be implemented into the Market Wards without making it an auction house.

[Vackashken]

NO to the AH.

The AH caused similar problems in Jeuno and later Whitegate in FFXI. And the same fix can be applied.

The marlet wards should be expanded. Along with ways to discern HQ items and personal retainer price history.

Or, have stands be outside of the MW, such as camps and outside cities.

Or they could just, OH I dunno, link the AH to all three cities? Can you do that with the MW? Dunno, does that mean if I go into the Grid one I am magically in the Ul Dah one if I want something? MW are stupid and cumbersome. An AH is more efficient in every way. Period.

[Lerris]

I like the wards. They are immersive. Like a real-world marketplace.

In a medieval or renaissance city, nobody bought supplies at an auction house. That would be ludicrous.
If lag and crowding issues can be resolved, then resorting to buying from a menu at a central location would be a step backwards in game evolution.
Of course, if the technical issues are insurmountable, we may have to settle for the inferior solution of an auction house type setup.

No vote submitted.