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  1. #21
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    Heroe's Avatar
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    Dada Life
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Heroe View Post
    Does it need to say its a bard item. The fact that its only DEX and not STR should be reason enough for a monk not to wear it. If a monk does wear it, you should be laughed out of the game for wearing gear that is worse for your class then your AF is.
    i mean seriously... you played to 50, and you want to wear gear with no str on it? i get it has crit vit and acc but your AF is better this this for monk. Do you not understand how gear works -.-
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  2. #22
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    Dada Life
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raenryong View Post
    I feel sorry for anyone cursed to group with you. Thankfully, I don't think anyone reading this thread will make such an error.
    hes prob wearing VIT rings and a MND earing
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  3. #23
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    Onyxys's Avatar
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    Ulric Delkin
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 81
    Im talking about not compleate discribtion of item. There must be sign "arc brd"- thats all. No problem
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  4. #24
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    Garnatian's Avatar
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    Gaust Euler
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50
    You know, what goes through your head where you think, I can't be wrong, this must be a bug? You should have some basic knowledge of your class, especially it's main stat, which for Monk happens to be Strength.

    Even if you could need, you'd be a bit of a ****** to need on something you have absolutely no use for.
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  5. #25
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    Reaper Dx
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Someone already mentioned it's open that way because if they add a future class that uses DEX, they don't have to go back and fix coding for every single piece of gear with what class uses it. They can leave it open to any DEX users.
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  6. #26
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    ChickensEvil's Avatar
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    Zinovia Siderius
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by decadent_blade View Post
    BS it is a bug.. im a gladiator tank* and iv found loots for tanks only , gld war pdl marouder. and still the need arent available for me... but for the archer it was... why an archer can have the need available if he cant equip the danm armor? and it was better than my chest and it was for my lvl...
    Can't tell if serious, or trolling. But the "Disciple of War" stuff is always for DPS, That is why the tank gear is specifically locked to the tank classes. The gear linked in question is "equippable" by all "Disciple of War" which happens to include Archer/Bard (they do NOT use magic). However, they are the only class to use DEX meaningfully.

    Archer/Bard currently shares no gear with any other class. The two healers share gear, the two casters share gear, the two tanks share gear, and the two melee share gear. Archer/Bard is just a special snowflake for the moment.
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  7. #27
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    KogaDrake's Avatar
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    Koga Dragontaker
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Onyxys View Post
    Im talking about not compleate discribtion of item. There must be sign "arc brd"- thats all. No problem
    As I said before, making all gear that is DEX based marked "ARC BRD" rather than DoW with only ARC BRD having need is a bad idea because it is that much more work needed to change EVERY item when a new class/job is added. leaving it as is just means they need to add the new class/job to the need option and not also change the descriptions of EVERY item. The curent way also allows any DoW to equip it for vanity item (i.e. not for combat and when stats matter) while the change you want to make the why i cant need makes it something only ARC BRD can equip
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  8. #28
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    Ulric Delkin
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    Pugilist Lv 81
    All information about gear must be in describtion, so players dont have question ?WHY?. Developers must add this information in describtion of this item and others too. Without this information it is a BUG, that I, monk, can not push NEED button on toxates tunic
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  9. #29
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    Pellegri Testament
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Onyxys View Post
    All information about gear must be in describtion, so players dont have question ?WHY?. Developers must add this information in describtion of this item and others too. Without this information it is a BUG, that I, monk, can not push NEED button on toxates tunic
    No there does not need to be any more information put on these items. If you hit 50 and are too dumb to understand that dex is worthless for you(if you are not a bard) that is your own fault, not the devs(same reason why bards can't need on the lvl 50 str gear). If anyone reaches max level and does not understand the stats their class needs when just glancing at your character screen it becomes plainly obvious it is your own fault for not understanding, square does not need to change anything with how gear is handled.
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    Owen Villania
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    Valefor
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Onyxys View Post
    All information about gear must be in describtion, so players dont have question ?WHY?. Developers must add this information in describtion of this item and others too. Without this information it is a BUG, that I, monk, can not push NEED button on toxates tunic
    Well, if you think SE should put a mark on every single piece of gear as to which class they belongs to, go ahead and make a new thread to suggest that.
    I don't know how long this will take for them, or how much other functionalities they have to delay to get this up, but it's your choice to suggest.

    If you think this is a bug... Then may I ask, is it also a bug that I, as a warrior that can equip almost any kinds of armor in the game, can't do NEED on some gear in the game? those leather are equipable by me too right?
    If that's a bug, I will do a NEED on every piece of gear and grab all those leather gears you were supposed to have too.
    (/sarcasm)
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